Pavlik vs the top super middleweights

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Not knowing something is ignorance. Not knowing something by choice is stupidity. :deal
     
  2. sandwedge

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    Hard to say as pavlik hasn't fought there yet but i think he would beat the following: froch, green, lacy, mundine, inkin and pascal. I think Kesslar and calzaghe will beat him. Bute and andrade are around 50:50 fights.
     
  3. van the man

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    -and beliving u know something u dont is plain dumb!
     
  4. Grant1

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    How can you get those two in the wrong order ??
     
  5. booradley

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    Actually I watched some more Andrade stuff on you tube yesterday, and I have to say that the guys who were ragging on me are probably right. Pavlik is more than capable of embarrasing him.
     
  6. The Chameleon Boxer

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    This is a bit of a ballsy topic. On what grounds have you come up with a list like this?
    Yes Pavlik beat Miranda and he beat Taylor twice, but how do you know he will be able to carry that power to Super Middleweight?
    Don't get me wrong, Pavlik is a good fighter, but he hasn't fought an intelligent fighter like Calzaghe or Kessler. Styles make fights and there is no way Pavlik will beat these two.
    You Pavlik nuthuggers need to relax a bit and not get carried away.
     
  7. Hermit

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    Dude, it is ALL speculation until it happens. The determination it takes to be champion cannot be easily measured. So, when you talk about Pavlik, Calzaghe, and former champ Kessler, you always have an intangible that is hard to quantify.
     
  8. TFFP

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    I'm not sure. I think Pavlik would comfortably outpoint him, but I have my doubts about him hurting him that much. Kessler fought the perfect fight, timing him absoultely spot on, Andrade actually walked onto the right hands and barely moved an inch. Pavlik walking forward and doing the same, I just can't see it budging him, guys a freak

    Given the nature of the styles, it would likely look like a war, and not an embarrasment. I'd like to see it for sure.
     
  9. booradley

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    I said it would be a "bloody war of attrition," and people jumped all over me. Including you! Now your saying something very close to what I said. The thing about a Pavlik/andrade fight is that andrade is double tough and has a huge heart, and I think Pavlik may have a touch of "Tommy Hearns syndrome." That is, he may have some tendencies to go to war when he should be boxing.
     
  10. TFFP

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    No, I think its more your phrasing that got peoples backs up

    You made it sound as if Andrade is a harder fight than Calzaghe, when I think you actually meant Calzaghe wouldn't be as hard as people expect and Andrade would be a tough fight. Subtle difference. It's still a bit absurd :lol: