Pavlik Wants Hopkins At 160

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by cuco64, Oct 27, 2008.


  1. The Mighty Bolo

    The Mighty Bolo Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik doesn't want to see B-Hop walking down the street!:scaredas: Let alone a lighter quicker Hopkins.:bbb You probably talk to Pavliks cousin or somebody on myspace.:huh I don't think he's typing on myspace after his first loss.:patsch He might still be drinking.:tired
     
  2. PittFan

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    What an ASS you are. You admit you give up on your sorry ass boy?? Kelly is fine and will keep the MW title for as long as he wants it. Did he lose to B-Hop? Yes he did. Is he ruined like Miranda? Hell no and you know it. Kelly ruined Miranda. I tell you what is going to be funny you little *****, Miranda will be some throw in on an undercard in the next few years on a Pavlik MW title fight. Kelly will keep on making his good money and your boy will be back on the streets with you.
     
  3. Pantera2000

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    Hahahhahahahahahaha
    And here is the big JACKASS winner!
    How dumb are you buddy? :huh
     
  4. dave82

    dave82 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You deserve a chest dump for saying that.
     
  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Bulls--t. The weight was clearly a big influence. I am not saying that Hopkins would not win, I am just saying that the weight was a problem for Pavlik. He underestimated Hopkins.
     
  6. kirk

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    This is the way i look at it...


    If Pavlik feels like the extra weight effected him, come into the 170lb fight as if he was going into a 160lb fight

    But wanting Hops at 43 years old to come down to Middle.... i just dont see the point, UNLESS you think that he wont be as good at middle BECAUSE hed have to make it, and there is no honor in that.

    At any rate.... there is no point, the reason he beat Kelly up wont change with the weight... hes too smart, too skilled.

    Pavlik should move on
     
  7. kirk

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    Then maybe he wins a few rounds this time... but i doubt he goes from winning ZERO rounds to winning 7 in a rematch...

    Like i said, if he thinks it was the weight.... then come into the rematch at a lighter weight, ya hops will have a weight advantage, but so what...

    Hopkins is close to his mid 40's and moved up from middle three years ago for Gods sakes... He cant make middle anymore and still retain his strength, he moved up for a reason. Pavlik just wants to fight a weaker hopkins... where is the honor in that? Hopkins hasnt fought at middle in three years, his body has adjusted...

    Imo its a bit unfair to want Hopkins to go down to 160 at this point... Pavlik is a big boy, he didnt have to take this fight with Hopkins but he did, Hopkins doesnt owe him anything.
     
  8. eze

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    It's obvious the weight effected him, we all saw he was completely different in the Taylor rematch. Pavlik is stronger and faster than that. Will he beat Hopkins? I dont think so, but Pavlik would definitly pose a challenge this time around.
     
  9. kirk

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    Im not saying the weight didnt matter to pavlik... but as for the fight, hes not gonna go from winning zero seconds of the fight, let alone one minute, let alone one round.... to winning 7, because the fight is at middle.

    He will have a bit more on his punches, they will have more snap, more power, and he might open up a bit more... but he will still get countered to death, outmanuvered, outboxed and out thought.... I think he could win the first couple rounds if he just let his hands go, but i think that he didnt let his hands go alot not because of the 10lbs, but because he didnt have a target to throw at, kinda like jermain taylor vs spinks... and hes used to having a person right there in front of him to hit.



    This is all besides the point though.... bottom line is that Pavlik doesnt deserve a rematch, he needs to move on.


    The only reason i could see Hopkins fighting Pavlik in a rematch is if its for the middleweight titles, just for the sake of becoming Middle champ one more time... but that would be about it. There is nothing there for Hopkins... he already scalped Pavlik and i doubt he would be motivated to do it again after such a display.
     
  10. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ^ :good.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Pavlik def does not deserve it but I would watch it.

    Adding the extra weight and Hopkins movement hurt bigtime. Take away the weight it wouldn't been as big a factor IMO.

    Instead of the 2-3 rounds he won Pavlik would win 4-5 maybe break even if he threw enough punches.
     
  12. Minto

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    :good
     
  13. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    It wouldn't make a difference at all.
    Pavlik style could/Will never beat Hopkins style.
     
  14. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    It is so unbecoming of a promoter to come here just to hate on another fighter, isn't it?
     
  15. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Mr. Pot?:rofl