pavlik-williams

I've seen Pavlik fight, but I haven't seen Williams fight... Pavlik is good, but I think Williams is overrated.... hmmmm I'm on the fence on this one

 

So you havent seen him fight...but he is overrated?

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And yes, that is Winky Wright that he did that to.

 

Wait, did you say Hopkins didnt hurt Pavlik? Umm, yes, he did, on multiple occasions.

 

my man sues2nd holding me the **** down in this thread..... saying everything i was just about to say


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pavliks output is one of the biggest flukes in boxing honestly... everyone bring it up as if he throws 100 punches per round against everyone.... he does that against guys who just sit directly infront of him

 

everyone is just going to say winky was shop worn and old and a bunch of other ****

 

winky was smaller? Margo was smaller? he is a huge 147 but not a huge 154 and he is far smaller than pavlik as far as natural strength and wieght goes....u fight what u weigh...he is not a bully...this would be a greta fight IMO i am not sure williams has the elusiveness to go the distance but he has a good opunch output and chin...i would lean towards williams in a close fight barely surviving for a UD

 

He does have good output...but movement directly effects that. He is a fighter who needs to sit down on his punches to feel comfortable enough to throw. Its evident in any highlight Ive seen on him. It was my main focus when I did my breakdown of Hopkins - Pavlik before the fight happened.

As for 100 punches per round...he never has averaged 80 punches a round. So it is a myth...but as I said, he does still have a very good workrate overrall. Its just not when compared to a marvel in that right in Williams.

 

that is coming from a guy who says williams has minimal pop at weltereight....ask matthyesse, quintana????see what they tell u ...don't cu=onfuse his pitter patter punches with his power shots

 

pavlik is more nonstoppressure to where williams is nonstop punching...both are effe ctive...what a fight this would be

 

no pavlik was not hurt...

 

but im saying... zertuche - miranda - taylor woudl all just sit infront of pavlik like ****ing dick heads basically asking to be hit.... thats why pavlik complained about all this "i wasnt my self" after the bhop fight.. bhop did such a good job in the first 5 roudns that by the 6th roudn on pavlik was so far out of his rhythym that he had no idea what to do.... it wasnt weight or the flu.. it was the fact that pavlik is 1 dimensional and once he was taken out of that dimension he didnt know what to do.... paul has the ablility to make him feel that way....

the only ? is pauls chin holding up

 

pavlik was hurt 2 / 3 times... lets be honest here

esp in roudn 2

 

Pav takes this one easy

 

Bull****!

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Why not listen and watch. They talk constantly about him getting hurt by Hopkins, even in a 2 min highlight. A highlight that doesnt include that uppercut that buzzed Kelly early...or the bolo right hook he landed more towards the middle rounds.

I realize that you are a pavlik fan, but that doesnt disclude you from actually watching something unbiasedly. You are aware of that right?