Pavlik would be beaten by Williams or Martinez!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jeff M, Dec 5, 2009.


  1. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Problem is they probably just took a lot of **** out of each other, and will do so even more if they fight again.

    I had the fight a draw by-the-way. Both are great fighters. I admit I didn't think Martinez was that good.

    People are dumb if they think this fight doesn't mean Williams is an excellent fighter.

    Both are damn good.

    Edit: One more thing! Are Williams fan's still going to tell me he kicks Mayweather or Mosely's ass?
     
  2. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Williams gets KTFO. The reason he stayed competitive with Martinez is because of his height and reach and because he has a decent enough chin and Martinez is sort of a light puncher.

    This allowed him to dodge some shots purely on height while moving his torso back. His reach allowed him to get back at the slick Martinez. Pavlik, although one dimensional (as is Williams) is William's size and is a power puncher. I really want to see WIlliams in with a power puncher that is his size. With that defense he has, I don't know how he'll deal with them.
     
  3. Rush34

    Rush34 New Member Full Member

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    Pavlik has sledgehammers. I think Martinez may give Pavlik a harder time than PWill.
     
  4. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Pavlik ****s up Williams, I can see Martinez causing problems but losing a Decision or late tko to Pavlik
     
  5. SAS2

    SAS2 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what you're missing is that PAvlik has more power than williams and martinez combined. if pavlik landed some of those shots martinez did he heeda ktfo williams
     
  6. #1Rounder

    #1Rounder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pavlic by murder!!!! And i was picking Williams to win initially...
     
  7. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Now dont compare Pavlik's power with Martinez or Williams. If Pavlik landed his punch the same way both Williams and Martinez did to each other, i dont think they'd still be standing.
     
  8. teemy

    teemy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pavlik would kill both of them

    stop smoking crack
     
  9. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik may had power but could he handle what was coming back at him is the question. Keep in mind either of these guys had time to really get ready for one another. I knew that the Pavlik fans would jump on this, but the fact remains wasnt Pavlik suppose to fight tonight??? Were was he??? Didnt Arum Say that he was going to fight AA??? What happened??? Here is two top fighters fighting eachother and Pavlik is fighting yet another bum in a long list of bums that he has fought thoughout his career.

    You chumps need to stop tring to give that guy credit for what others are doing, could have would have...Some one text Pavlik and tell him to find a sack and do it:good
     
  10. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Both could possibly. Martinez moves alot and would find pavlik, but i don't think he would hurt kelly. Kelly's punches could very well have more effect
    on martinez and williams. Also, pavlik throws alot of punches to. These guys might not need pavlik either now that they have each other.
     
  11. dcantwell

    dcantwell Member Full Member

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    Yep!!
     
  12. MAYLO

    MAYLO Active Member Full Member

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    Pavlik is way too SLOW to land like these guys land on each other. They land because they are very skilled. The Ghost...is not.
     
  13. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    No offense but that's a dumb question.

    If he took flush bombs from Taylor at 160 and Hopkins at 175 he'll take Paul's best shot anyday. Ditto for Martinez.


    And Margarito is fast?

    Paul is not a hard target. Pavlik finds him. Pavlik knocks him out. I'd like to see the fight but just saying.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both of these two are way too fast and unorthodox for Pavlik. He gets slaughtered.
     
  15. Boxmaster

    Boxmaster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Williams has some weaknesses, but he has shown that his defensive skills is amazing and on the same level as Mayweather. It's just really difficult to hit him clean. His weaknesses are that he often telegraphs his punches, he doesn't use his height, and he's not great at counter punching. Otherwise he is a complete fighter and I think he has a good chance at beating anybody from any weight class all the way up to light heavyweight just based on his skill, his stamina, and his ability to take a punch.