Pavlik's manager: The cutman is why Kelly Lost

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    "I asked them to please let me go out and hire a more experienced cut man. I even told them 'if you don't want to use my West Coast guys, I'll go out and hire Danny Milano.' This guy [Brumback] cost Kelly the middleweight titles. He had no idea on how to close the cuts. He used the wrong solutions on his face and his skin opened right up. It was an even fight after eight rounds. I have no doubt that Kelly would have won the fight if we had a more experienced cut man in the corner."

    -Cameron Dunkin
     
  2. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can get the **** out. He was cut because he got slapped silly.
     
  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    His cutman does share some of the responsiblity. The guy was over his head and average cutman could have atleast somewhat stopped the bleeding. With that said this goes back to kelly not having a professional team around him.
     
  4. Piffer

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  5. Maxime

    Maxime Sweet Science Full Member

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    Always with the excuses, He'll never improve unless he accepts his short comings and try to improve them.
     
  6. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    An experienced cutman would've at least threw some ****in' vasoline in those shits...****in' AY...guy just pressured guaze on it.

    No coagulates. No vasoline. None of that weird sandy **** they threw in there...nothing. ****er throws on guaze and then he's already bleeding before he gets punched.

    I'm not sure if that would've made a difference in the result, but it would've made a major difference in Martinez's domination. It might've been closer. Kelly stopped punching because he said he was blind out there.

    It was almost like watching Jones/Calzaghe when Roy was cut open.
     
  7. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Kelly never said this. It was his manager.
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    All the guy did was put pressure on the cuts. That was it. It was disgraceful.


    The cuts played a huge factor in having Martinez win, but that's part of boxing.

    Martinez cut him himself.

    It was this was from a headbutt it would be different.
     
  9. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lack of boxing skills is why Pavlik lost. The cuts were secondary to that fact.
     
  10. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I mean if this dude was a true champ, he would have a team good enough to keep him there, he wouldn't have alcoholic rumors floating around him, and he would figure out ways to overcome his issues which he hasn't done.
     
  11. Piffer

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  12. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    well BOO has his excuse now. Expect to see him in 3-2-1
     
  13. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    I disagree.


    From rounds 5-7 Pavlik was winning and with the KD evened the fight.


    Once that left hand cut him. Pavlik was never the same, but all that credit goes to Martinez for opening the cut as well.
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.

    And I understand that Kelly has great loyalty to his trainer, and I did see improvements in Kelly's balance and timing, but he still hasn't developed any sort of an inside game. Martinez was often in a position to be hit with uppercuts, yet Kelly looked as if he wasn't taught on how to pull the trigger.
     
  15. Piffer

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