Pavliks weight Issue

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  1. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    Im not here to make excuses. Bernard fought an incredible, masterful fight. Congratulations to him. Im only stating a fact on weight and the vital point it made in the fight. After weighing in at 170 on Friday, Hopkins tipped the scales at 185 before Saturday’s fight. Pavlik, meanwhile, gained just three pounds — to 172 — from Friday to Saturday. One of his biggest advantages at middleweight is the size difference. On Saturday, that advantage went to Hopkins.
    The difference was, Hopkins was trying to get down to 170 and with Kelly, he’s 160 and he’s trying to put on weight. Pavlik fought a bigger, stronger guy in a bigger weight category. He wasn’t able to throw punches and it may very well be because he was packing too much weight.”
    Bottom line--pavlik is not a fighter past the middlweight division. I take nothing away from bernard but pavlik was out of his realm and that was his downfall.

    Let the haters commence.
     
    marauder1999, Oct 20, 2008
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  2. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Have we not heard from the Pavlik camp that getting to 160 is a struggle?
     
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  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Hopkins was 180 on fight night, Pavlik was 174. Also, Pavlik did not have to put on weight for this fight as he probably walks around at about 180 or more.
     
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  4. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    You'r statement is a lie mister,Hopkins came in on the night at 180 and Pavlik at 174.Find a bigger excuse and a TRUE one.Pavlik was the favorite and was fighting a elder.He is just limited
     
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  5. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Pavlik stated that he walks around 176 to be exact
     
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  6. Nestea

    Nestea Thirst Remover Full Member

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    No issue here. Move on!
     
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  7. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    In the future they had plans for him but they wanted to stay at 60 and rule the division for a couple years.
     
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  8. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    How the hell would a romanian know that?--give me a quote not just your word.
     
    marauder1999, Oct 20, 2008
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  9. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I saw an interview or maybe an HBO countdown,don't remember exactly but I know I heard that mr. nationalist
    ''Kelly walks around at 176''-is this quote good?:D
     
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  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik had more than a dozen fights over 160, and boxrec shows he even weighed-in at 169 one time.
     
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  11. Drofrah

    Drofrah Active Member Full Member

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    If a fighter choses to fight at a weigth then they have to deal with the consequences
     
    Drofrah, Oct 20, 2008
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  12. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    This is the same old tired excuse. It wouldnt matter if this fight was at 100lbs or 250lbs Hopkins would ALWAYS tap that ass. Pavlik couldnt get off because he is a crude slugger as iv said time and again. This loss aside no one expected him to be so comprehensively outboxed but the facts remain BOXING is the name of the game.
     
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  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    His belly wasn't that big and that's just his body type. 170 lbs. is small for a guy who is 6 '2.
     
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  14. thesham01

    thesham01 Undisputed Champion Full Member

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    no excuse on weight for pavlik, maybe he just fought a better boxer! Pavlik is one-dimensional, so much so that when that dimension is gone he cant even win a single round!
    face facts, as good as pavlik is, he was over-rated!

    If pavlik wants to rule that division i`d say its time for a new trainer.....
     
    thesham01, Oct 20, 2008
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  15. marauder1999

    marauder1999 Champion Full Member

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    Hes the middlweight champ not the super or light heavy champ--Hes the middle champ.
     
    marauder1999, Oct 20, 2008
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