Pay your respects to Joe Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TFFP, Nov 30, 2007.


  1. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    That's what I'm trying to say

    People are obsessed with names. They have to be ****ing American to qualify as names and all

    Look at this mans boxing skill, his heart, unbeaten for two decades. Beat off the best competition at his weight, and ducked by a so called 'great' across the pond

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  2. ikeabuchia

    ikeabuchia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    dawg you can wipe your brow but i think you know where im coming from,
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  3. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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  4. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm American and it's true, non-American fighters are not going to get the respect they deserve. Kessler demolished everyone in his path up to Calzaghe, but is dismissed as average? Nobody in the US called Lacy an 'average' fighter leading up to his humiliation at the hands of Calzaghe. Only after. Why? Because he's an American fighter. Kessler's accomplished much more but didn't get half the press and respect that Lacy got. Imagine if Lacy had won the fight with Calzaghe. He'd be written about by the US fans and press as the second coming of Sonny Liston.
     
  5. yesihavearm

    yesihavearm Active Member Full Member

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    Sugar Ray Leonard also says in his book, that he thinks Calzaghe is the best fighter in the world today, one of the best he's ever seen. And when asked by Michael J Fox who would win between the 2 he says Calzaghe.

    Actualy boxing experts rate Calzaghe. Its idiot American boxing fans who dont.
     
  6. ikeabuchia

    ikeabuchia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    lol I remebr at college these american dudes come in acting like the new kids on the block, and I kicked there ass in the ring and l knocked the other out clean, coming in this place calling me black british fools, lol and i found out that he lived a block away from my brothers place brooklyn bronx newyork lol,
     
  7. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Better defence, better footwork, better ring generalship, better mentality, better stamina and better chin.:good

    But by comparison, since Taylor did 24 rounds with a past it Hopkins, if Kessler had dominated Hopkins and KOed him in 8 rounds, Hopkins would have been shot and Kessler still doesn't matter like people thought Taylor did.
     
  8. headhunter

    headhunter Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If Calzaghe was American he'd be P4P no1
     
  9. TFFP

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    So what does Joe have to do to qualify as 'great' in the eyes of spastic yanks

    What if he beat Taylor and Pavlik? It makes me laugh people think these would beat Kessler, nevermind Joe Calzaghe

    Can't force Hopkins to get in the ring...

    What if he had fought RJJ at his peak, and lost?
     
  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    How and Why? What would be said of Floyd Mayweather if he took a fight with Alfonso Gomez? If Bernard Hopkins fought Codrington? Floyd got **** and bashed for fighting Baldomir and Judah for ****s sake :lol: :lol: He was getting criticized for fighting the "undersized Hatton" and not going after the big Welters :deal Calzaghe takes a fight with Peter Manfredo and then FINALLY steps up and does what he is supposed to do and beats a respectable opponent, and he is annointed P4P King????????? :huh :patsch :nut :yikes :bart
     
  11. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Pay attention you race-driven little ****head, stop bringing nationality into it because it has nothing to do with it. Sergio Mora beat Manfredo twice, and we're not trying to put him above Sugar Ray Robinson!
     
  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe never beat a great fighter, its that simple. If you want to down play anyones wins you can if you want to, you could easily say Joe beat a washed up old Eubanks, or an over hyped one demensional fighter in Lacy, even Kessler showed alot of weaknesses fighting Calzaghe. I seen many opertunities were Calzaghe left himself vulnerable and Kessler couldnt pull the trigger, he also seemed very hurt from a body punch were he looked to want to take a knee.

    Im not saying Joe isnt a good fighter, but he needs a great on his resume before anyone could him a great himself. Anyone could compile 40 some wins without losing if he's fighting less than stellar competition, the giant Valuev had what like 46 wins in a row before he lost to Chagaev. Its who you beat that makes you great in my opinion.
     
  13. yesihavearm

    yesihavearm Active Member Full Member

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    He gave up his belt to fight Manfredo because HBO told him too, to boost his profile in the US so hes more known to the public. Just count that fight as an exhibition.

    Stop bringing up Manfredo all the time.

    When fighters like Kessler and Lacy win more in the future, people will respect those wins a lot more. Like people are doing with Bika now. Everyone on here was laughing that Calzaghe fought Bika. Now with a few good wins under his belt, its looking like a good win for Calzaghe, now nobodys laughing.

    I'd love it if Kessler fought Taylor and Pavlik in his next 2 fights, he'd be favourite to win both. Then Yanks would say, well maybe Kessler wasnt nobody.

    Boxing pollitics man. **** it.
     
  14. SKULLSPLITTER

    SKULLSPLITTER The CEO Full Member

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    Joe Calzaghe...

    a very good boxer...the best in The U.K....

    spent his career in non competitive, step child division...that and his lacking resume hinder his "greatness"...

    With his win over Kessler, he cracked the Top 100 of All Time and is realistically #6 P4P right now in The World..

    So...Joe Calzaghe...a damn good boxer who possibly could have been so much more...
     
  15. ikeabuchia

    ikeabuchia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the intersting question would be what do the real boxers, champions etc think about calzaghe, and everyone i can guarantee would say hes great period,