I'm serious, I mean they made people believers, based on nothing. To dis DAY the man's best win remains Luis Ortiz, yet STILL even after getting his head boxed off by 60% Fury then getting just straight beat half to death by an 80% fury, people are still asking, "maybe Wilder just took him too lightly", "maybe, maybe Wilder can really do it 3rd time round" It's laughable, I'm sure there will be people even if Fury KO1's him this time, they will be asking "but what if Wilder gets a new trainer, maybe he could do it 4th time" It's really amazing to me, just how good a job PBC, Showtime, Shelsley Finkle and co did, on the basis of such little actual evidence they convinced a lot of people that Wilder was really some true elite heavyweight. And there's people still now who can't reconcile the fact they have been had.