PBC going to Amazon with NO guaranteed purses

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  1. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is excellent news. A whole generation of duckers/fighters. You want to earn money? Fight. You want to be a star? Fight. All this 1 fight every 12-18 months is over.

    Couldn't be happier the Spence/Thurman/Danny era is over. Personally couldnt stand it.
     
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    thehook13 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Interesting. Will definitely shake things up, maybe promotors will actually do their job and market their fighters better. But sadly seems to drive inequality for lesser known/appealing fighters.
     
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    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think the "Danny Garcia" and "Errol Spence" eras are over yet.

    The Garcia-Lara WBA Middleweight Title fight will probably be the first fight card on Amazon. They're just waiting to announce a date when they know what network PBC is signing with.

    And Spence is rematching with Bud for the Welterweight title next.

    Sounds like Garcia and Spence are "kicking off" the Amazon era. ;)
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    My guy...aint 1 single person lining up to see Danny Garcia fight in any fashion let alone versus 45 year old Lara. Danny hasnt been relevant in like 5 years, seriously.

    Bud Spence rematch is going to be a very, very tough sell.
     
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  5. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly as I suspected. Just goes to show how much in trouble boxing is in that they can't even get a basic tv deal. If ESPN or dazn go the sport is in Ultra deep trouble.
     
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    Kratos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes if Amazon is not putting any money for purses and PBC and Haymon have to pay then there won't be a lot of fights going forward without having big cards.
     
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  7. FloatingGhost

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    The word that boxing was dying started while Pac and mayweather were still at the top and selling over a million for just about every fight. We all see what it’s come to now. The rumors were true. This sport is dying. HBO and SHOW both bowed out. ESPN stopped weekly boxing shows years before HBO did. Our sport is on life support. And these fighters still feel like they deserve millions for every fight and wanna fight once a year. The damn sport killed itself with the help of Mayweather, the Top Rank/Golden boy “don’t cross the street” crap, and most of all…Al Haymon, who has been at the center of it all. If you don’t see how Al is the grim reaper of the sport we love, you are blind. But he still has die hard supporters. It don’t make no sense.
     
  8. Diagoras

    Diagoras Active Member Full Member

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    Didn't you get the memo? Boxing started dying over a century ago, even Cassius Clay was part of its slow death. In Jack Sharkey's day, Marciano would have only been a sparring partner

    Boxing is a dying sport, former heavyweight champion Jack Sharkey asserted asserted today, with no one in sight who can beat "the kingpin who would have been a sparring partner in my time."
    Spokane Daily Chronicle 20 Feb 1952
    https://books.google.com/books?id=X...dir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=boxing-is-dying&f=false

    Fans are often quick to point out the not-so-distant past when Oscar De La Hoya's impending retirement had the same media questioning what would be next, who could take the ball and run with it into the future. Of course, Mayweather and Pacquiao were there to fill that role.

    But the "boxing is dying" meme dates back to well before the last decade. In 1913, the Los Angeles Times ran an article titled "Professional Boxing Is Dying A Natural Death." In 1923 the same publication ran an article titled simply "Boxing Is Dying Out."

    The St. Joseph News-Press ran an article in their January 10, 1934 edition detailing Kid Howard closing his legendary gym. Howard told the paper "The sport is dying. There are not good enough boxers or good attractions left. I can see no future for the sport. There are more clubs and more stadiums in the country with no outstanding boxers to fill them, or even come close."

    In the mid-1940's it was boxing on the radio that was supposedly killing the sport. By 1951, articles such as one appearing in The Montreal Gazette's December 26 edition, were defending televised boxing, the latest innovation supposedly killing the sport.

    The mid-50's brought more "dead sport" talk. The Toledo Blade on June 8, 1955 read "Let's face it. Boxing is dying everywhere, because commissions have surrendered to fighters and managers."

    1961 brought a new wave of the same old stuff, boxing was dying, again because of TV. Former champ Jack Dempsey explained "TV, or rather too much TV, and the people who profit from it, has put the independent promoters out of business. There are few, if any, small clubs anywhere in the country. Those clubs were the source of talent. Without fresh talent, boxing is dying."

    Even unheralded heavyweight title challenger Cassius Clay was possibly part of the inevitable death of boxing in 1963, along with fans not getting their money's worth.

    Four years later, in the June 6, 1967 edition of the Leiston Morning Tribune, Archie Moore mentioned Ali as one of the saviors of boxing as people again claimed the sport was on life support, "They sounded the death knell on boxing in 1938, but it enjoyed a spectacular growth after that. Then they sounded the death knell again, and along came (Cassius) Clay. And now you've got these Italian boys."

    And here we are, in 2013 running through the same cycles. There are no stars! There's too much boxing on PPV! There's too little boxing on PPV! Where are the clubs creating new young boxers?! It's the commissions! It's the managers! The fights are boring!

    But the reality remains, Floyd isn't making $41.5 million and Alvarez $12.5 million, in a fight that already set a Las Vegas live gate record, and will likely set pay-per-view records, to compete in a sport that is "dead."

    The sport of boxing is flawed, it has always been flawed. But as with every other period in its history, it's not going anywhere.

    https://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/4718644/mayweather-vs-canelo-superfight-boxing-is-dying-meme
     
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  9. Diagoras

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    That is a good thing, because radio & TV were what really started killing Boxing. Glad if all this new fangled TV stuff can be halted so that we can bring back the "golden age"

    In the mid-1940's it was boxing on the radio that was supposedly killing the sport. By 1951, articles such as one appearing in The Montreal Gazette's December 26 edition, were defending televised boxing, the latest innovation supposedly killing the sport.

    The mid-50's brought more "dead sport" talk. The Toledo Blade on June 8, 1955 read "Let's face it. Boxing is dying everywhere, because commissions have surrendered to fighters and managers."

    1961 brought a new wave of the same old stuff, boxing was dying, again because of TV. Former champ Jack Dempsey explained "TV, or rather too much TV, and the people who profit from it, has put the independent promoters out of business. There are few, if any, small clubs anywhere in the country. Those clubs were the source of talent. Without fresh talent, boxing is dying."

    https://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/4718644/mayweather-vs-canelo-superfight-boxing-is-dying-meme
     
  10. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At one point, the pound for pound top ten had 7 undefeated fighters. That shows you how bad it was.
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...OR...hopefully...people will LEAVE PBC. That's an even better outcome.
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder how many of those 7 were in the same weight classes (Spence and Crawford, perhaps Thurman, Usyk, Fury, Wilder, Tank and Loma). A joke how long some of these fights have taken to materialize...and some never happened at all
     
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  13. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Someone responded to my post saying that there has always been talk boxing is dying. I am not saying boxing will die and go away. Nothing like that at all. However boxing is becoming more and more niche. How many boxers today in America are household names? One or two. That shows you how much it is declining. So is it going to go away? No. However it is becoming less and less popular and the purses for these Fighters are going to get smaller and smaller.
     
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  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Not good for the sport having top guys sitting out for so long. Bezos is coming to crack the whip. No more lounging about
     
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  15. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes I don't know if/how that Era made networks money. Bunch of egotistical 2nd tier fighters shutting out up and coming contenders who couldn't meet their wage demands. Garcia should have another 3 or 4 defeats on his record.