PBC going to Amazon with NO guaranteed purses

rawjones · Dec 7, 2023

With only 12-14 events a year, these guys are still gonna fight once a year unless their name is Tank or Canelo.

box33 · Dec 7, 2023

Lesion of Doom said: ↑

Amazon will take a split of the PPV revenues. If they are doing non-PPV shows also, tho, that is a good question. Is PPV boxing going to cause more people to buy Amazon Prime? Seems unlikely. I think that's why people are skeptical that they're going to fund many if any non-PPV shows.

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Yeah in that case they could have gotten a similar deal with like say YouTube to stream/PPV their shows in the same manner,

For me Amazon Prime makes you pay extra for most new or good movies/shows etc don't know how it is for you guys in the US, kind of pointless for that reason.

lufcrazy · Dec 7, 2023

Diagoras said: ↑

Didn't you get the memo? Boxing started dying over a century ago, even Cassius Clay was part of its slow death. In Jack Sharkey's day, Marciano would have only been a sparring partner

Boxing is a dying sport, former heavyweight champion Jack Sharkey asserted asserted today, with no one in sight who can beat "the kingpin who would have been a sparring partner in my time."
Spokane Daily Chronicle 20 Feb 1952
https://books.google.com/books?id=X...dir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=boxing-is-dying&f=false

Fans are often quick to point out the not-so-distant past when Oscar De La Hoya's impending retirement had the same media questioning what would be next, who could take the ball and run with it into the future. Of course, Mayweather and Pacquiao were there to fill that role.

But the "boxing is dying" meme dates back to well before the last decade. In 1913, the Los Angeles Times ran an article titled "Professional Boxing Is Dying A Natural Death." In 1923 the same publication ran an article titled simply "Boxing Is Dying Out."

The St. Joseph News-Press ran an article in their January 10, 1934 edition detailing Kid Howard closing his legendary gym. Howard told the paper "The sport is dying. There are not good enough boxers or good attractions left. I can see no future for the sport. There are more clubs and more stadiums in the country with no outstanding boxers to fill them, or even come close."

In the mid-1940's it was boxing on the radio that was supposedly killing the sport. By 1951, articles such as one appearing in The Montreal Gazette's December 26 edition, were defending televised boxing, the latest innovation supposedly killing the sport.

The mid-50's brought more "dead sport" talk. The Toledo Blade on June 8, 1955 read "Let's face it. Boxing is dying everywhere, because commissions have surrendered to fighters and managers."

1961 brought a new wave of the same old stuff, boxing was dying, again because of TV. Former champ Jack Dempsey explained "TV, or rather too much TV, and the people who profit from it, has put the independent promoters out of business. There are few, if any, small clubs anywhere in the country. Those clubs were the source of talent. Without fresh talent, boxing is dying."

Even unheralded heavyweight title challenger Cassius Clay was possibly part of the inevitable death of boxing in 1963, along with fans not getting their money's worth.

Four years later, in the June 6, 1967 edition of the Leiston Morning Tribune, Archie Moore mentioned Ali as one of the saviors of boxing as people again claimed the sport was on life support, "They sounded the death knell on boxing in 1938, but it enjoyed a spectacular growth after that. Then they sounded the death knell again, and along came (Cassius) Clay. And now you've got these Italian boys."

And here we are, in 2013 running through the same cycles. There are no stars! There's too much boxing on PPV! There's too little boxing on PPV! Where are the clubs creating new young boxers?! It's the commissions! It's the managers! The fights are boring!

But the reality remains, Floyd isn't making $41.5 million and Alvarez $12.5 million, in a fight that already set a Las Vegas live gate record, and will likely set pay-per-view records, to compete in a sport that is "dead."

The sport of boxing is flawed, it has always been flawed. But as with every other period in its history, it's not going anywhere.

https://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/4718644/mayweather-vs-canelo-superfight-boxing-is-dying-meme
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I mean, tbf Jersey Joe was a journeyman in the 30s when he was fighting part time trying to feed his family.

If in 8 years Dave Allen is the next HW champion people would probably say something similar tbf.

BoxingIQ · Dec 7, 2023

Haymon is the man.

Sheikh · Dec 7, 2023

Seems like a raw deal. That essentially amounts to one card a month. That is nothing like others have mentioned there's way too many fighters and such a lack of dates. However if Al is smart he can also do one off deals with Dazn on the side

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