PBC on Spike: Kohei Kono vs. Koki Kameda & Andrzej Fonfara vs. Nathan Cleverly RBR

Fonfara had 474.

 

I don't really see it as almost forced stevenson out.
as stevenson wasnt hurt after he got up and won the 2 of the last 3 rounds.

 

You don't score fights based on the number of punches landed. Like I said, if you slap a guy five times, and he punches you six times and nearly rips your nose and ear off, it's not a "dead heat" ... you lose the round ... and your ability to breath out your nose.

Bowe landed 100 more punches than Holyfield in their rematch and lost a 12-round decision.

 

There's nothing foolish about respecting your heritage.

 

Glen McCrory on Sky had it 8-4 (116-112) for Fonfara.

 

Unless you slip, if you go down after a punch you're hurt, period. And that was a solid punch. Fonfara took a conservative, long view approach and did not apply total pressure fully after that KD. The entire fight was reasonably competitive and entertaining and a rematch is totally warranted. Not like Stevenson will man up and face Kovalev anyways so Fonfara is his next likely opponent

 

Why do you have the numbers 6 to 5 in favor of your winner if you don't think the number of landed punches don't matter?

Think of it like this then:

"if you slap a guy five times, and he punches you three times and nearly rips your nose and ear off."

How do you score it if you stayed on your feet regardless of the damage?

 

Because you're surprised and blinded by this. Brits are giving it to Fonfara. Now, I know you think that Cleverly surprised most people with his good, durable performance but that doesn't mean he won the fight. The first 5 rounds, sure, I was saying Clev was just the sharper of the punchers but Fonfara simply turned the entire fight around, short of knocking Clev down. Cleverly wasn't even arguing the decission, says all you need to know.

 

Because HE HIT HARDER AND HE LANDED MORE ... that's why I said six punches to five.

You can't say what if he landed half as many shots but they were harder ... because he didn't land half as many.

He landed more AND they were harder ... AND they did more damage.

It was an excellent fight. But don't cry that it was a draw because the Cleverly kept it close in terms of landed shots. Fonfara gave him a beating Cleverly may never recover from.

I was worried we were going to get another Magomed incident, because Fonfara didn't hit hard enough to end it, but he hit hard enough and so often that he was just ruining Cleverly's head.

 

That's certainly not how this fight played out. You make it sound like this was a one sided fight. The number of landed punches do matter in a fight and in terms of landed punches this fight was almost as close as it gets.

Remember Bradley vs Chaves? Bradley hardly finished that fight with the huge swelling on his forehead but everyone thought he won the fight, it was called a draw in the end. Because it's scored on a round by round basis and not based on which fighter looks more pretty in the end.

Fonfara won this fight because he was the A side and Cleverly didn't do enough to neutralize that advantage, not because he lost 8 rounds - he didn't.

 

I mentioned this during the second half of the fight, but I'll repeat it here, I don't see how anyone can rate the punches Cleverly was throwing once the second half of the fight got going. They were the epitome of slapping shots that had zero effect on Fonfara whereas every time Fonfara put the pressure on Cleverly his shots had a very visible effect, busting his face up and you could literally see Cleverly being forced into a defensive shell repeatedly trying to avoid wilting under the pressure. They both landed a similar amount of punches in each round and Cleverly deserves full credit for toughness, effort, and heart, but there is no comparison in terms of quality and effectiveness between the work he was doing on Fonfara and the work Fonfara was doing on him, particularly in the 2nd half of the fight(though I thought it really started around Round 3). It was a competitive, but clear Fonfara win. If Cleverly had actually tried to box Fonfara rather than slug it out with him, he might have pulled the fight out because he did outclass Fonfara on the outside when he was using his jab. Unfortunately he elected to slug with him, which made for a very fun fight, but wasn't the right strategy.

 

Cleverly lost because Fonfara beat him up and outpointed him.

Don't start this "A-side" ****. "A-side" lost on Wednesday night against a guy with four knockouts because he got outfought.

Same thing tonight, but the winner did more damage.

And I've said several times it was an excellent fight. But, after 12 rounds, Fonfara had beat the living hell out of Cleverly.

It wasn't an "even" fight. There was a clear winner. And it was Fonfara.

 

Exactly. Thank you.

Good night.

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