PBC Signs Major, Multi-Year PPV Deal with Comcast/Charter/Cox PPV distributor

Nonito Smoak · Dec 5, 2019

Robney said: ↑

Overpaying boxers without earning money back surprisingly does not hold up for long, who knew?! And the oneshere pointing at the huge elephant standing in the room were called haters for pointing it out.

They had to get back to a archaic method like PPV to cover the cost and make some profit, effectively making it even worse as it was before in the US.
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Same as HBO. No surprise. I am surprised "free TV" PBC lasted as long as it did and put on as many shows.

It's just a fringe sport in the US. No way to make real sporting money and pay boxers more than peanuts.

NoNeck · Dec 5, 2019

Trafford said: ↑

he beauty of DAZN is it uses economies of scale. It has worldwide income and is not focused solely on the US to supplement those contracts.

With Canelo for instance DAZN have paid him good money but they then have the right to distribute to Austria, Germany, Japan, Brazil, Spain, Italy and Canada.
Many of these markets previously would have not bought the rights to his fights or would have been a nightmare to try and sell the overseas rights.DAZN have taken that problem away. They will not do PPV as it takes away from their whole model. It’s like Netflix making people pay extra for certain films.

For instance Canelo gets $35m a fight they can remove $25m from their US budget for which they only need 200k subs. $5m from Japan and Canada’s budget for which they only need 50k subs between them and the rest from the remaining markets. This still allows Canelo to sell in any other lucrative markets.

PBC are too reliant on US PPV and cannot spread their outlay in this manor. It’s only a matter of time until fans begin to lose interest in paying PPV for sub par fights. Wilder vs Ortiz being an example. It should only be used for the big fights like Fury vs Wilder, Spence vs Crawford. Free TV builds the fighters profile. PBC made the biggest error when the entered the market and overpaid everyone. They then only give fighters one fight a year which doesn’t help build any traction building stars. Tank, Wilder, Charlo and Garcia should all big bigger stars than they are at this point of their career the likes of Jon Jones and Nate Diaz have bigger profiles than Wilder and Tank which is crazy considering one is the heavyweight champion of the world with 10 defences and is unbeaten.
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Fighters purses are still supplemented when there’s an international distributor. The fighter’s purse is just coming from more places.

Dubblechin · Dec 5, 2019

Robney said: ↑

The whole point was that it was clear their initial setup just didn't work, because it was losing shirtloads of money unless they got a much bigger viewership and much bigger advertisers for their shows. Overpaying boxers without earning money back surprisingly does not hold up for long, who knew?! And the oneshere pointing at the huge elephant standing in the room were called haters for pointing it out.

They had to get back to a archaic method like PPV to cover the cost and make some profit, effectively making it even worse as it was before in the US.
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Worse than it was before?

Before PBC, how many free, over-the-air nationally televised boxing shows were aired in the U.S. every year?

How many DECADES had gone between prime time boxing shows on national television when all the fights were on pay cable channels like ESPN2, HBO and Showtime?

This year, on free national television, there was:

* Keith Thurman vs. Josesito Lopez title fight (and Kownacki vs. Washington) in January
* Leo Santa Cruz vs. Rafael Rivera title fight in February
* Shawn Porter vs. Yordenis Ugas title fight (and Ajagba-Mansour) in March
* Danny Garcia vs. Adrian Granadas (and Andy Ruiz vs. Dimitrenko) in April
* Jarrett Hurd vs. Julian Williams title fight (and Matt Korobov vs. Aleem) in May
* Gerald Washington vs. Robert Helenius (Charles Martin-Martz and Jamal James-Demarco) in July
* Jean Pascal vs. Marcus Browne title fight (and Adam Kownacki vs. Chris Arreola and Omotoso-Stephens) in August
* And we're still getting Harrison-Charlo II title fight on December 21 (with Efe Ajagba on the undercard).

AND PBC posts all its fights from all the Fox channels on its Youtube site a month or so later, so you can watch them any time. And they have a weekly, nationally televised boxing talk show on Fox every weekend.

Yes, it's SO MUCH WORSE than it was before. We're only getting one national boxing card one Saturday a month for the whole year, instead of ONE EVERY 10 years.

(That's not even counting the fights on FS1 and Showtime this year (like Eubank Jr vs. DeGale earlier this year and Eubank Jr.-Korobov this weekend.)

Yes, it just sucks PBC has made everything SO MUCH WORSE. (LOL)

Without PBC, DAZN wouldn't be here trying to beat them. Without PBC, ESPN wouldn't have upped their game and began showcasing title fights regularly from the US and Frank Warren shows from the UK ... and would still be televising those $10,000 budget ESPN2 cards featuring mostly nobodies.

The debate is over regarding PBC. Boxing fans won.

Everyone all together now ... "THANKS PBC!"

Trafford · Dec 5, 2019

NoNeck said: ↑

Fighters purses are still supplemented when there’s an international distributor. The fighter’s purse is just coming from more places.
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Not if you can’t sell the international rights. Lots of which go unsold. The UK is a big buyer of boxing rights and its missed large chunks of this years fights. Many of the PBC rights get picked up for cheap last minute like this weeks Charlo card. Which has gone to premier sports that no one has ever heard of in the UK for a fraction of market value. Therefore not really supplementing anyone’s purse.

as opposed to Canelo maybe getting $10m for a fight vs Fielding with another $1-3m in international rights they are paying triple that as they have the subscriber base and platform.

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