I beg to disagree that you are on a right mind or serious. Can you explain why do you think pbf is better than ali? If not then just please shut the **** up.
Nah, talent wise FMJ is up there with the greats but he has to do way more with that talent to be ranked higher than Ali who I have top 2 or 3 p4p. I actually have Mayweather at 10 mainly thru his ability but thats largely due to me not having seen enough of the greats... he must do more, its vital that he does more for his ATG standing, the real fans are not stupid, he might convince a 15 yr old casual boxing fan he is the GOAT but not any knowledgeable fan. Botswana :smoke
floyd is probably the best technical fighter ever. He should have fought more. They both have fought a lot of guys who is bigger so they are both p4p greats. technically though, i give it to floyd.
he is top 50 maybe...well, still a question mark for me? he was beaten by Castillo in the first fight, he's win against Oscar is debatable...and he did not fight the legit contenders in his prime like Margarito, Cotto, etc. all washed up hehehehehehehe...Did Ali duck anybody hehehehehe. roy Jones far better than him in his prime.....and his not even in Roy Jones quickness prime for Prime? and you tell us that he is better than Ali.... Pacquiao will fight anyone including Cotto or maybe Margarito next year....And now you tell me who is better!
people who flat out says that castillo beat floyd the first time they fought, haven't watched the whole fight. Floyd won the first 5 rounds until his shoulder blow out. And there was a few swing rounds in mid way to castillo finishing strong. So it could have gone either way. But imo I thought Floyd won in simply fact that he was leading way too much early. And Floyd beat Oscar 8 rounds to 4. Clear as day for me. That SD came out, probably bc one of the judges in paid off. They traded rounds all the way till the 9th and Floyd won the last four easy.
anyone who thinks Oscar actually won obviously have an biase opinion on Floyd. and btw anyone can be quick. I can throw a punch just as fast as Jones but what does it matter if it doesn't land? ANYONE can throw fast punches. It is about effectiveness. Floyd smashed the stats in the most punches landed/landed upon him in history. People who deny his greatness is noobs, simple. There is a reason why boxing community rate him so high is bc he is that damn good. Complete fighter offensively, defensive, and great at all ranges. Good foot work, speed, power, accurate. Really who in history is as complete as floyd jr? You can make an arguement about how he didn't clean out the 147lb division and ducked some welters but you denied that he have dominated great fighters in his era.
you should learn how to box before you mouth off dumb examples. Floyd was a blur against Gatti. Why? bc Gatti sucks. A lot of Jones opponents sucks so he look like a blur a lot of times. Hell if i box someone who sucks, i would be a blur bc i know there is not a price to pay. Floyd fought judah in a very calculated matter bc he respected Judah's hand speed. So he focused more on the game plan than being "fast". was jones fast against tarver? or glen? No. there is a reason. hell Gamboa is fast but guess what? he gets knock down almost every outing now.
my top atg p4ps would consist of Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Haglar, Bhop, Jones jr, Floyd Jr, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis. Potential: Vaquez, Lopez, Cotto, Darchiyan, Dirrel, Dawson, Joe Cal and many more. To suggest that Floyd can't match any of who i have name is ridiculous. I think he is a better fighter then all of i listed from a technical stand point. Heart, not so sure. Number of opponents then he is not even close.
There is no comparison, Ali was a man who put boxing on the map big style for that time and if we had to say the same for Mayweather his shithead persona couldn't even draw flies. He is technically sound but far from great. You dont get to be an all time great off skill alone, if you got voted as an all time great for being a knob then Floyd Mayweather would be Number 1
nobody can question of floyds abilities at 135 but no one including floyd could do what he does at 200+lbs Skill wise Ali was as good as they come at heavy and he has one thing that floyd will never have.........Heart. Ali wasn't just not afraid of any man but he hunted down anyone who people said was a threat to him. Floyd only fights the big fights for big money. The guy is gifted but he is no atg or even close to Ali, and you should be ashamed of yourself for even writing such garbage!
Here's the key difference between Ali and PBF. If Ali were a welterweight today he would have ALREADY fought Cotto, Margarito, and Williams, and moved on.