PBF isnt the greatest, but how many skillsets in history are you taking over his

No blind hatred or nutthuggedry. Be objective.

Get it out of the way now, he's not the GOAT. And I'm not saying that because I think it's "disrespectful" to dethrone other ATGs. There is no GOAT anyway, there's just GSF (greatest so far). Time doesn't stop, therefore there is no GOAT, not a permanent one anyway. I hate this idea of setting a cap on how high fighters can go, like its "disrespectful" to move a fighter up or down. Before a fighter steps in the ring, he gets a ceiling on how great he can be. It's terrible and It's not true because time is infinite. And there will be better guys in the sport that deserve to be over older fighters. With that being said Floyd is not that guy. Not deserving of the greatest ever. I think one day someone will be, but it ain't him.


But I've been thinking about this whole "TBE" thing. And the idea of there being a difference between greatest and best.

I mean, Duran is greater than Floyd. But would I want his skillset over Floyds? Nope. Not a chance. Watching Floyd the other night, his skillset is almost perfect for boxing. He looked young out there. Fresh. Undamaged. And has aged gracefully. Even at his advanced age there aren't too many, if any holes in his game. And this whole "no power" thing has been ended. He can punch. Not a devastating puncher. But still strong.

So I ask you, not on an ATG scale, but just from his skillset alone. How many skillsets do you want over his if you're a boxer? Honestly?

I mean minimizing the damage you take, maximizing what you dish out while not getting hit. Elite IQ, Elite Jab, elite footwork. Elite timing. Long reach, elite range control, elite speed, elite evasiveness, elite reflexes. Can throw any punch. Elite defense. Elite recovery ability. Good punching power. Great chin. That pullback counter. That check hook off the ropes. Elite ring generalship. Elite quickness. Elite work ethic. Perfected, tweaked philly shell. Tweaked punching motion to maximize quickness. Can cut off the ring. Can fight, big, and small. Elite stamina. Elite offense (prime) elite accuracy. Elite mental stamina. Can fight off the ropes. Elite athleticism. Elite adjustment making.

And all that adds up to him fighting at 38 and being the best in the sport still.

We know he's not the greatest, greAtness has a lot to do with accomplishments and public perception. The only thing he's the greatest at is self promotion.

But is he the best ever as far as skillsets? Who's are you taking over him?:think

 

There's holes in all of their skillsets though. You want RJJ skillset over Floyds? Why?

 

Interesting. My father used to say the same thing. He said that he couldn't think of anyone who was as balanced as him.

 

I'm starting to feel the same, he might be the best ever foreal. Not the greatest, but man that skillset is perfect. Can't really think of one I'd take over his. And that skillset has allowed him to be competitive and dominant at age 38. Think about where some ATGs were at 38 man.

 

The defense is what puts him over. The fact that he doesn't have to rely solely on reflexes is a plus. Hes Taken less Flush blows than any other fighter I can think of.