PBF isnt the greatest, but how many skillsets in history are you taking over his

he was no brawler. do you even know what a brawler is?

rios and margarito are brawlers. :good

 

Serious question.. Who has Floyd fought that you think would have beat SRL at the moment Floyd fought them? Obviously this is since he moved up 10 years ago.

 

IMO, Floyd has the most complete skillset that I would want as a boxer.

 

I actually agree with tennis. Its not fashionable to big tyson up nowadays. But for me in his short prime he'd definetely be up there with his skillset.

 

Or even in their prime

None of them would stand a chance

Oscar is probably the best fighter Floyd ever fought

And oscar was faded but a prime de la Hoya gets badly beaten by Ray

 

I'd take his skillset over any fighter ever. (purely skills alone)

 

Did you forget Ray started at Welterweight and FLoyd ventured up there by the time he was almost 30 years old?

SRL is widely considered a top 2-3 WW ever. He traveled all the way up to 175 and won the LHW title- which coinceidentally was his 5th weight class as is 154 for Mayweather.

Your point is so flawed, it's like me making fun of Ray Leonard for thinking he would get beat by Archie Moore or Bob Foster. It literally makes THAT much sense.

 

Yeah, I mean Floyd's great, but let's not go crazy.. SRL was so much more complete of an offensive fighter. Able to string combos together with power, just as dangerous on the back foot as when he was coming forward. Floyd's hands caused a lot of his deficiencies in his WW years, but that affects your skillset..

 

Dude, you haven't even watched Duran's career. Just ssshhh. You haven't even seen the fights I'm talking about, you literally know jack about boxing. Your word/opinion is of zero value to me.

You honestly don't need to switch accounts either. We all know who you are. You shouldn't even post any more you should be so embarrassed.

 

speak for yourself.

ask the mods already.

You mad because im exposing you as a pseudo boxing fan?

 

Ray's power and combination punching went with him, Floyd's has not. His offensive skillset was flat out superior..

 

Ray fought just 7 times above 147 pounds, which was his original weight class. He had 2 KOs, one of which was against a journeyman. There really isn't a lot of evidence to suggest his power carried up any more than Floyd. He still had pop, but not like he did at welter.

Just saying, memories can make you make guys seem bigger than they were. I've found it's good to actually go through their entire careers again, from the beginning, to end.

 

My point had nothing to do with offense. It's people trying to put a guy who was really in his prime at the tail end of his 130 lb campaign against a guy who was one of the 2 or 3 best WW's in history, which would be Floyd's 4th weightclass and Leonard's original one.

So it's like ridiculing Leonard for not being able to beat the ATG guys at LHW. FLoyd was not in the peak of his prime by the time he got up to WW.

And I agree Leonard had the better offensive skillset, I think he might be one of the 3 or 4 best fighters offensively ever. I also believe Floyd had the better defensive skillset, and is one of the best 3 or 4 fighters defensively ever.

 

Floyd would beat Duran 10 nights out of 10 at 140 or 147.

Duran is seen as "greater" because he engaged in wars and sometimes came out on the right side of them, sometimes he didn't - i.e No Mas. Hard to ever see Floyd saying "No Mas" on a stool.

Skill set wise, Floyd has without doubt more mastery over boxing than almost anyone else in the sport. He may not fight the way you want him to fight, he may not have the "I'm going to lower my guard, walk through punches and try knock my opponent out" mentality but boxing has evolved and changed.

There are too many fighters like Ali, Gerald McClellan, Freddy Roach, Tapia, Joe Frazier who all have lost their faculties because they fought an entertaining cloud pleasing style.

On any given night, Floyd would turn up and be competitive with any fighter, all time, from 130 to 147. Floyd has shown pretty much what no one else in boxing has shown, an ability to fight "greats" and not once have an off night so much so that it caused him to lose a fight.

But yes, lets all **** on him and pretend like he's not a great, because we don't want to live in a world where greatness occurs.

 

I agree with all this.