that's just so true. so many things FMJr will have to deal with in Manny. Speed, Power, Heart. Pacquiao is also a master class fighter now light years above what FMJr has been in with in the past. All I have to say, and I favor FMJr in the fight, is that Floyd is going to have to step into the meatgrinder if he wants to land anything and we know he doesn't like to get hit.
So, basically, your basing the idea that Manny will have some success simply because of what he did to DLH and Hatton? You say that is your evidence but that is speculation as well. And, you must REALLY be looking through Manny-colored glasses if you think Manny is doing a lot of the above things better than PBF did when he was still fighting. You really believe Manny has better defense than Floyd?? Come on man, seriously. And, look at Manny's second fight with JMM and look at how much Manny was hit...when does Floyd ever get whomped on like that? Never. You're reaching for anything to try and get out of a logical debate with me over how this fight is played out. And, I hate to break it to you, but, most of what you just said was "your opinion".
They mean a whole lot! it's not the scores or the ko's, it's the performance and character of each fighter in them. Manny always figures out his opponents and Floyd will be no different. anyway, PFP#1 vs. PFP#1, it's a can't lose fight.
Manny won't have a choice but to get into a "thinking match" with PBF because PBF dictates how fights are fought; not the other way around. Manny only knows how to fight one way and that will spell disaster for him when PBF is able to shut down Pac's offensive arsenal.
the reason you say that is because pac is an offensive type of fighter, he was rarely on defensive mode, you can't also base on that assessment since the fight only last 2 rounds. If pac-hatton took 10 rounds then i will consider your point
Please explain to me how Manny's wins over Ricky and Oscar translate to success or a win over PBF? I'm waiting.
No, styles make fights. That's the point. I gave Judah as an example because he is a fast southpaw and also stated that the reason he had success was becuse of his jab and because of his reach. Neither of which Manny has. Is that so difficult to understand? Apparently so. I gave an example as to HOW a fighter can disrupt PBF but Manny doesn't have that luxury because he doesn't have the jab or the reach. Even if you look at the Oscar-PBF fight, Oscar was having early success with the jab, but abandoned it. Pacman doesn't have the jab or reach to disrupt what has been PROVEN to disrupt him. Do you better understand now?
No question it's silly to say FMJr outclasses Pacquiao...mostly because Pacquiao already outclasses FMJr every day in life by merely breathing. Oh, he meant in the ring? Yes, FMJr outclasses Pacquiao is a silly thing to say.
I'd pick a prime Mayweather but if Floyd has lost anything from the long lay-off it will make it a very interesting fight.
so you are saying that floyd hits harder than manny but he just likes to go the distance and only hits them hard enough so they can still get up (that explains the survival rate against floyd). floyd likes to let his opponents hit him more than manny because it makes it more competitive (that explains why pac was harder to hit). floyd is faster than manny but his opponents prefer to let manny hit them more often (they can see pacs punches but refuse to move). floyd has a higher workrate (no sarcasm required). guys let manny beat them with counters because he is nicer than floyd. floyd has proven his heart by avoiding the roughest customers in his weight range. is this what i am to believe or do you have different explaination? please point out where i am wrong and try to use facts i can see. its not that i dont trust your opinion, but, i dont trust your opinion.
It's not like they each fought one of these guys years apart which is where I could concede the argument fails, but the time frame was short you could almost say they were fighting the same or similar version of each fighter, even if both DLH and Hatton diminished since then it's not enough to warrant a wash. What I'm looking at is the way the fights unfolded. FMJr grinded out a close decision win over DLH, why? DLH was just as washed up then as he was against Pacquiao, why give him the opportunity to win? Why even let him be in the fight? That's Mayweather's weakness, he's content with a UD. Even Judah, Pac would have collapsed that mental midget much soon, sooner then Cotto probably. Then against Hatton, again Mayweather was content to score points and even allowed Hatton to tag him with power. Pacquiao on the other hand came in with a firestorm and put his man away as soon as possible without hesitation...and he can do it for 12 rounds. When was the last time FMJr fought 12 rounds? I mean 3 minutes of every round for 12 rounds. Common opponents matter!