PBF outclasses Manny all day, every day

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 5Burowz, May 3, 2009.


  1. 5Burowz

    5Burowz Guest

    Actually, the opposite will be true. Manny will be the one who will have to risk it all to land, not Floyd. Floyd will jab to the stomach, pot shot, and counter like he always does....and will methodically break Manny down for 12 rounds or for however long it lasts.
     
  2. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    This post is so wrong on so many levels its ridiculous. Before I break this post down. Let me tell you that Mayweather may very well win if they ever fight. But all day everyday? No ****ing way. Easy win? No ****ing way.

    1.) First of all one mistake you made(you keep making it whenever you post btw), is assume that Pac will only go one way and nothing else. After the last 3 fights against Diaz, DLH and now Hatton you'd think that a boxing fan would already notice by now that Pac DOESN'T GO IN STRAIGHT LINES anymore. If he was going straight lines against Hatton, the fight would've been way more competitive and Hatton would've even KO'd him. You saw the fight, you saw how Pac was using his lateral movement to keep Ricky from trapping him, you saw how superb his footwork was, you saw how he had great head-movement, then you sit there and still say Pac goes in straight lines? Ha! Now that's a joke right there.

    2.)You also assume that Pac is dumb and would only stand in front of PBF. Again, look at his last 3 fights and my post above for reference. You also completely ignore the simple fact that he is not the search and destroy fighter he once was(one that you obviously still cling into). He's a THINKING FIGHTER now. Your delusional if you think Pac will just come charging in straight at PBF like a mindless ghoul. There's a reason why Pac is now a boxer/puncher. He counters well, he times his punches well, he's pretty accurate with his punches and it has also become varied too. He throws left straights, left hooks, right hooks, uppercut, hell even his jab is pretty decent IMO. So no, I'm afraid you'll be dissapointed when you find out Floyd's fighting a moving target and a dynamic one to boot.

    3.)The Mayweather-Marquez comparison. I laugh whenever someone bring up Marquez to justify the ownage Pac will get from PBF. Citing their "similar" counter-punching styles as proof. I'm sorry, but contrary to popular belief JMM and PBF DO NOT have the same style. Yeah they both do counter-punching but the way they execute it is DIFFERENT. You know why JMM toubled Pac in their 2 fights? Its because JMM ACTUALLY TAKES RISKS, you see JMM MANY times throw lead punches and initiate exchanges to bait Manny in so he can counter him whenever Manny responds. In short, JMM throws WAY MORE PUNCHES than Floyd could dream. That respectable workrate of JMM's was what allowed him to fight evenly with Pac for 24 rounds. It prevented Pac from having rests and forced him to be constantly on his toes and to always be on guard. It also meant that Pac would be constantly hit many times throughout the fight.

    PBF's counter-punching style is different. In these higher weights, he NEVER takes risks no more. His workrate is abyssmal. He never does 4 to 5 combinations to the head and body as often as he did in the lighter weights anymore. All he does now is wait for his opponents to attack and only then would he throw a counter-punch whenever he sees an opening. And even then he only throws 1 or 2 counters at a time. That's it. Compare that to JMM who usually throws 3 to 4 counters at a time. VERY DIFFERENT STYLES BROTHA.

    As I said Mayweather would be the favorite. But if this fight with Hatton told us anything, its to NEVER underestimate Pac as it will only come back to bite ya in the ass.
     
  3. 5Burowz

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    LOL @ the word "afraid". O.k., whatever. PBF doesn't have to "trade" punches because of his vast arsenal. PBF can do it all, and that has been proven throughout his career.
     
  4. jpjp7

    jpjp7 Member Full Member

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    PBF must run very in able to survive the onslaught of manny.

    potshot all night
     
  5. tysonlewisbook

    tysonlewisbook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    after seeing Paq last night floyd wll now duck the fight same as he did Cotto, Margarito and Mosley. For the simple reason: Paq is young strong and vicious, has the true champion's fearless mentality, and the power to leave floyd laying stiff like Hatton last night.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    very well said. i also favor floyd slightly but it is because skillwise they are close but floyd is bigger. how can you not use their last 2 fights as a barometer of where they are when neither fighter is the same fighter he was 3 or 4 years ago. the manny of today is fighting more efficiently against similar opposition than the floyd of last year. manny will give floyd all he can eat AND a doggie bag for ellerby.
     
  7. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    I'm sorry if you feel that way. Nobody's saying Floyd has to enjoy the punishment needlessly, but I've seen Floyd take hits, he doesn't take them well, he is visibly uncomfortable. I also saw Marquez take Pac's power and he was never uncomfortable even after all the flash KD, he was never wabbled or lost his composure.
     
  8. martin0792

    martin0792 The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Floyd is defense before ofense, Manny is ofense before defense. Floyd wins easy !
     
  9. the_brigand

    the_brigand I'll Eat Her Later... Full Member

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    FMJr's biggest asset is his cross against a southpaw and his reach but that's all he has against Pacquiao and Pacquiao can close that distance pretty damn quick and put solid painful combination together. If you think that FMJr's just going to methodically pick him appart you're missing the point - this is why common opponents matter - Pacquiao is classes and classes above DLH and Hatton, there's hardly anything to break down, barely anything to exploit and brings game changing elements of his own into the ring. FMJr's going to have to fight the whole time, every second of every round with more intensity then he's ever shown, the kid I've been dying to see since his lightweight days.
     
  10. 5Burowz

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    You didn't even answer my first question in my last response to you so why should I bother with all of this? I'm trying to make this as quid-pro-quo as I can but damn you are making it difficult.

    1. I never said Floyd hits harder than Manny but when they fight one another you're going to find out just who the more effective puncher is and his name ain't Pacman.

    2. If you think PBF gets hit more than Manny you are truly a blind fool.

    3. Floyd is faster than Manny because if he wasn't, he would get hit just as much as Manny does--as an example. Manny doesn't have faster hands, and when they fight, it will be evident.

    4. Floyd doesn't NEED a higher workrate. Please explain to me how Manny's higher workrate somehow makes him able to beat PBF? PBF will nullify everything that Manny does should they fight.

    5. I, too, cast a stone at PBF for not fighting Cotto, Shane, etc. I think he should be fighting those guys instead of looking to fight JMM and possibly Pac. So, I agree with you fully that Floyd is avoiding guys in his respective weight class. It doesn't mean he's not going to give Manny a boxing lesson though.
     
  11. 5Burowz

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    Once again, how does this translate to a win over Jr. for Manny? And, you're delusional if you think Ricky was landing power shots on PBF. You seem to think PBF's supposed "contentment" is a weakness but if that were really true he would've lost by now. He coasts to victories because he can. If Floyd needs to turn it up a notch against Manny, he will. You seem to believe that because Manny KO's a lot of guys that somehow that means what PBF will do in the fight will be ineffective. Foolish of you.
     
  12. 5Burowz

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    Wrong. The only reason PBF came back was for a shot at Manny because he knows he can beat him.
     
  13. 5Burowz

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    I've seen Pacman more hurt in fights than I ever saw PBF hurt. Fact. One thing you seem to forget is that Floyd doesn't HAVE to take punishment because he's always the smarter fighter. Manny has taken lots of punishment from JMM alone. You can't tell me Floyd isn't going to have MUCH success against Manny if lesser fighters have been able to trouble him over the course of his career.
     
  14. rob6465

    rob6465 Member Full Member

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    What comedy show are you performing at next?
     
  15. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    No easy fight. Not by a long shot.