PBF vs Big Show in a REAL boxing match

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drexl, Feb 21, 2008.


  1. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    If the talent is equal or close to equal......Holyfield Bowe 2/Golota-Bowe...the mental part was the difference
     
  2. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Drexl, did you see an out of shape Gatti against the heavyweights on Pros Vs Joes?

    What did you see from that that made you think Big Show could beat Mayweather?
     
  3. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep and cut off the ring instead of chase

    Ah why am I wasting my breath? Foyd wont take a risky experiment
     
  4. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And hes gonna learn anything in 2 months?
     
  5. carll68

    carll68 Member Full Member

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    And in the other corner, you have a guy who can actully do the things his corner is teling hime...with decades of experience....
     
  6. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    What did yo see from that that was remotely like a 400+lb pro athlete vs a 150lb pro boxer?
     
  7. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    Well I saw an out of shape Gatti dodging punches like RJJ in his prime and knocking down heavyweights....

    So if Gatti who's hardly a boxer can dazzle heavyweights, then why can't Floyd dazzle an even more slow, cumbersome heavyweight??
     
  8. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    400lbs my ass
     
  9. carll68

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    Stll..never in a ring, never being hit, goign agaisnt a p4p champ....I actually think 1 month would be detremental to him....he would be so confused it would position him like a bullseys for Floyd..his unorthodox method might be his best shot to last 3 rounds..he strats trying to "box" and it plays to the boxers advantage. Give Valuev some credit Drex....he is a good boxer....still lost to a smaller guy (twice really---Ruiz beat him)...its not jsut the 1-2..it the knowledge that he can do more than that......
     
  10. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those sissys were not heavyweights
     
  11. carll68

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    Ahh..but they were in weight......thus proving being a big Joe does not make you beat a pro...remeber in peak condition..Big show isnt 400lbs....
     
  12. maracho

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    More like that guy who KOd Tyson in Japan. He says he was simply driven by the recent death of his mother.

    Or that short fat street fighter that almost KO'd Joe Louis.

    or better yet Tommy Morrison winning the golden gloves and beating 20 proboxers the same year without any prior boxing training--just bar brawls
     
  13. maracho

    maracho Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I not talking his 4000 LBS but rather his 7' height against a Floyd Mayweather

    I more than probably any other poster here have argued that guys like Joe Gans, RJJ, Grebe, Conn, etc.. prove that skills can trump size and strength.
     
  14. carll68

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    I would have used Tyson/douglas..but it did not feel the talent level was that close, really..but, its a good point for the mental aspect in both cases....Douglas, mentally determined, Tyson, wanted to mail it in....Tyson, clearly the better fighter, but, mentaly, was outmatched....
     
  15. carll68

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    Look at it this way Drexl...size being the thing you are bringing up as advantagous...look at Vlauev...he is taller thaqn Big Show, correct? Now, if he were to pack on 80lbs of beef, would he be a better fighter? The answer, a resounding now...he would be slower, less stamina, etc...and yet in this scenario...he still would be a professionally trained boxer....would he beat Mccline or Sergie or whomever in this condition? Likely, no..he wouldnt. Now...you are expecting us to beleive that a shorter man, weighing just as much as Valuev, weith 1 month boxing training, is some how going to beat PBF is a marquis of queensbury rules bout? Not happening. His weight is a big disadvantage.