PBF vs Big Show in a REAL boxing match

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Drexl, Feb 21, 2008.


  1. MON

    MON Active Member Full Member

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    On a normal day, Roy Jones Jr is giving away 3 inches and 60 pounds to John Ruiz.

    So if Roy Jones can beat a professional world boxing heavyweight champion despite giving away 3 inches and 60 pounds....

    Why can't Mosley beat a novice whilst giving away 5 inches and 70 pounds?
     
  2. carll68

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    Drexl, I do understadn your point, i really really do...but you are saying that size negates all other aspects...which it does not.....I know the discrepency in size is great, and, by nature, would offset some variables, yet.....keep this in mind...it would not offest them all. Think about it...Bis Show could lietrally be gassed by mid 2nd round chasing lil' gayweather, then, once tired, he starts getting tagged....I knwo what you are saying, do you see my point? Size would be negated by skill...since the size variable does not contain skill.
     
  3. dangerousity

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    The fight wasnt MMA, it was standup boxing so his newfound mma skills owuld be irrelevant. Gannon tied him up alot but the rules were standup and technically Gannon and kimbo was still standing so thats where the dispute was. I would be inclined to think though that Mosley would KO a fat Gannon easily. Funny how KImbo was KO'n guys left to right but soon as he faced a boxer, he was landing shots but the guy wasnt falling down...boxers in general absorbs shots alot better, even chin chinned guys like Audley.
     
  4. carll68

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    I saw that fight...he was a retired fireman or something wasnt he? Wow...thats a stretch saying he beat a former golden glover...it wasnt even a boxing match..it was in some corner wharehosue that looks like it was pulled from "the deer hunter" with a mat and a bunch of loud people..and a pimp....
     
  5. dangerousity

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    lol, but Gannon was a former golden glover. And he was in the police force at the time, fired after the video came out.
     
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    Pitbulls beat even the next toughest domesticated dog--Neapolitan Mastiffs

    .....However, the fact that boxers are often like punishing ghost against much bigger tougher guys in the boxing ring gives credence to the fact that boxing and street fighting are two very different realms
     
  7. carll68

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    Danger...you gotta figure...if Gannon was that good, he would have turned pro...right? i mean, using that fight (I am not shittiin on you here) as evidence that Kimbo, who i like, has boxing experience and a beat a golden glover...well, that like saying Joe Buck and Ratso can beat Tyson, isnt it?
     
  8. maracho

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    Gannon fought MMA for years didnt he? Just watch the choke in the video

    http://www.vidilife.com/video_play_279087_Gannon_Vs_Kimbo.htm
     
  9. MON

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    Thing is, Kimbo didn't even beat that GG winner.

    He got beat up and even had his goons running in to help him all the time.
     
  10. dangerousity

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    Yep that the video I saw ...look like the warehosue from the deerhunter or something.....Russina Roulettte anyone. None the less, tlooks like Kimbo tried to grapple....and, we all know that beard would not be allowed in the ring. I would take 18-30 YO Tyson over Kimbo in a fight, anywhere, ring or street.
     
  12. dangerousity

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    Im not using that fight as a reference to Kimbo's top skill. Im using that fight to show that Kimbo is a good few levels above th likes of Lesnar & Big Show in terms of boxing skills. To me, he is probably equivalent to an amateur boxer with good amount of experience in terms of boxing skill. He did beat a golden glover. Someone can come up to me now and say they beat Ray Mercer in a boxing match, granted Mercer is very old so I wouldnt think their world class for that but it still would make me stop and think that he must have a decent amount of skill. Atleast better than that of a newbie, like I said, Kimbo's skill based on that can probably be compared to a good amateur boxer.
     
  13. carll68

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    Guess Drexl took the count and bowed out???? Oh, BTW, do you know other sites fanboys are saying right now that Kimbo should turn Pro-Boxer as he would be top 5 HW and could win a title in a year....I am not kidding.....I read it somehwere in user comments..MMA Zone or something..I felt all dirty and white-trashy after realizing that was the site I was on...
     
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    But he did not beat Mercer in a boxing match..he took him to the ground, and he lost to the GGer..right?
     
  15. dangerousity

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    lol, Tyson retired as he is now would destroy Kimbo inside 1 round. Without even training. Noticed how Kimbo chose to take a grandad Mercer down despite having boxed all his opponents? Because he knows that even grandad Mercer would still beat him standing up. All these talks of him even become a top 30 HW is a joke.