PBF VS JMM @ 130 lbs

My belief is that at 130 lbs, Pacquiao imo lands a harder single shot with his left, because he brings about his whole body coming foward and using his legs, lands his shot with more torque behind it.

However, this does'nt mean that his single shots are more effective than Mayweathers.....Mayweather disquises his shot alot better, and is quicker to get it off......the old saying that the shot you dont see coming is the shot that hurts you is true.

I think Pacquiao is more likely to end things with a single shot if he can land one that his opponent does'nt see coming, but Mayweather is more likely to consistently hurt a fighter and have him on the bridge ready to go, because he's more likely to hit someone with a shot they did'nt see coming.

In any regards, they both could punch at 130 lbs.

In regards as to who the better finisher is, its pretty close, but I'm inclined to give Mayweather that edge in that he's a more precise puncher, and when he's got someone hurt, he's more likely to hit the right spots to score that KO.


Btw, the shot from Pac that floored JMM in the 3rd round of their rematch, was a shot that Marquez did'nt see coming. That shot from Pacquiao did hurt JMM for that very reason. It was a hard shot that he did'nt see coming and he was hurt.

.......as compared to the three knockdowns from their first fight, where Marquez did see the shots coming, but to his admission, he misgauged how far Pac could step into his shots.....those shots Pac landed, and although they floored Marquez, he was'nt really hurt by either of those three knockdowns, for the very reason that he did see them coming.

 

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you nailed it :good

but i think the 3 KDs hurt jmm, even a little (theres blood in his nose). but not as much as the 4th one.

other than that, totally agreed.

oh wait, its better to say that "the shot that you dont see coming, is the shot that hurts more", imo.

 

WRONG CASA BEAT AND TKO ON THE 6 OR 7 ROUND'S AND IT TOOK pbf ALMOST 11 ROUNDS TO STOP THE FIGHT CAUSE A CUT!!!
But of course if the fight would not be stop by the Dr pbf could have win a wide UD.


BTW CASA BEAT CHICO WROST THEN PBF DID AND YOU FOOL'S NOW IT:hi:

 

The three knockdowns in their first fight, were far from having JMM on ***** street......he was up quickly and on steady legs from all those knockdowns.

The rematch knockdown Marquez had to take more time to get up, and when he did, he might have not been on ***** street, but his legs we're not 100% under him.......
......that was really a well timed shot in the mid'st of a JMM combination, that nailed him on the button.

The way Marquez was able to come back from that shot in the time manner that he did and re-cooperate in the manner that he did, speaks of his chin, stamina, heart, and will to win......all factors imo that are highly underrated by most when it comes to judging JMM.

How anybody can say that Mayweather blows JMM away after seeing him survive that shot from Pac, and comeback strong, is really mind boggling to me.

 

that's another thing i like about marquez, his ability to recover, just amazing.

btw, how do you compare jmm's chin, stamina, heart and will to win against pac? (its off topic )

 

floyd on points.

floyd would fight this the same as he fought hatton because even at this weight, floyd would be too big for jmm.
when a puncher like jmm fights a guy like pbf, they are either too far away or too close to trade punches like jmm did against pacman, barrera, etc...
i can see floyd backing up, staying out of range then landing 2 or 3 punches and grabbing or turning marquez.

bare in mind, i havent been into boxing for more than 2 yrs so if im wrong, i would like to hear an explination as to why :bbb

 

You're going to have to wait for my response to that ti'll Dec 7th!:hey

 

You're wrong!

Mayweather has never been a clincher......

I've got to give Mayweather credit here though.....he's a fighter that does his homework. He knew what Hatton's game was all about, and knew he'd come at him with real fury.

I forgot where I heard it from, and I dont know if its even true, but I read that Mayweather hired someone specifically to work with him in training camp to be better able to deal with grappling issues.
.....everyone knew that Hatton would do alot of clinching when Mayweather let his hands go......
.....but from what I heard, Mayweather trained specifically to beat Hatton at his own game.


......in any regards, Mayweather would have no reason to grapple with JMM, and even it he tried it, its a bad idea to do that against someone who throws the uppercut the way JMM does it.

JMM vs Mayweather would be a boxing match, and even if Mayweather backed up to play defense on the ropes the way he like to do, I dont envision alot of grappling going on.
If JMM would chose to body up with Mayweather on the ropes, they'd likely play a body puching contest.
I see hooks and uppercuts from JMM if he'd take it to Mayweather on the ropes......Mayweather would likely need a breather if he'd find himself on the ropes in that situation......so he'd likely be there to rest, and try to set JMM up for a big shot coming off the ropes.

I just dont see a grappling session from Mayweather unless Marquez shots were wearing down and hurting Mayweather.

A grappling session could come late, and if it did, it likely bad news for Mayweather, as JMM would likely be wearing him down.


Btw my friend, this mythical matchup is for 130 lbs, just 4 pounds off of where JMM spent his prime at.
At 130 lbs, I dont see Mayweather's size being that big an issue.
Physically, Mayweather did'nt look imposing at 130 lbs!

 

i know pacs' shin will be tested to the fullest on dec 6

i have no problem with his heart, stamina and will to win coming this fight :deal

 

I think JMM lasts longer than Pacquiao in a fight vs Mayweather.

Doesn't mean he's better. Its just a matter of styles that gives JMM from going all out brawl against Mayweather. Now only if JMM were a couple of inches bigger than money may, then you got a different story.

 

good points.

i didnt mean to say clinching or grabbing. more like 'handling' i meant.
he handled hatton and hatton didnt have the space to throw punches on the inside. i think this would be the case with jmm, seen as its virtually impossible to land an uppercut on mayweather.

mayweather is a fighter who studies his opponents, so he would know...

not to trade with jmm as jmm would simply punch with you

jmm has a great uppercut so be wary when he is close

this is the only way i would see the fight going. jmm coming forward, pbf landing short bursts and handling jmm.

Im interested, how would you see the fight going?
:think

 

JMM is NOT a puncher

He punches hard enough though.

 

That is very true.

JMM has never fought anyone like Mayweather.

Also JMM has trouble with counter punchers like himself (as can be seen vs John and Casa) but all I am trying to say is that we don't know how Mayweather would respond to a style similar to JMM. For that reason alone I think its hard to say this would be a walk in the park for PBF.

 

he does throw lots of hard punches given the chance tho. so floyd would simply just not give him the chance :happy