PBF Will Never Fight Again

PBF will not return unless it is another Gatti/Baldo/old Oscar type of opponent.

 

It was a great fight. The division is packed and it's only going to get better. Cotto showed he's a beast, Margo showed he's a beast, PWill is a beast ... Berto on the rise, Clottey tough ... what a division.

 

LOL, I won't be shocked. I doubt he will ever fight Margarito. If he does, I would give Mayweather huge props.

 

LOL how is it Margarito's division when he already lost to Williams?

It is Williams' Division now.

 

Put's a lot of doubt as to whether Mayweather will come back. I expected him to come back for Cotto. For Margarito? I don't know.

 

It's interesting isn't it. Cotto first of all does not have as god of a chin as mayweather, Mayweather is much faster, awkward, has pure boxing skill, is a defensive wizard, faster better movement, more athletic, and is more seasoned and proven then Cotto. Everyone knew that with Cotto's defensive stance that he would get hit with Margo's best weapon, the uppercut. Margo was throwing like 4 consecutive uppercuts -- the first may not get in, but sooner of later the others will and he broke him down. Cotto could've continued but he pretty much gave in and didn't want to fight anymore -- I supose he didn't want to get completely KO'd.

In any case, like you said, all this fight showed me about the possible Mayweather/Margo fight is this, that cotto who is a puncher with some boxing skills out boxed margo for 6 rounds. Boxing -- which is what floyd every second of every round and can keep up the pace and is unnatural with.

On paper I said Cotto should win, but I felt that he is open for uppercuts and margo keeps coming.

 

You're severely underestimating both fighters. An average swarmer or a C level fighter doesn't just beat on the likes of Judah or Mosley. The difference in this fight was that Cotto's chin was much more susceptible that Marg's.

If it is possible (and we don't know) to subject Mayweather to this type of punishment and agonizing pressure, he would have been stopped and probably earlier than Cotto. The fact of the matter is that, just like Cotto, Floyed has never seen or doubt with this kind of pressure in his career. The fight with Delahoya provides no real indicators here as Hoya's pressure, work rate, stamina and power are now where near Marg's at this stage of his career. I'm thinking Mayweather on points but I wouldn't rule out a stoppage for Marg either. In any event, it would be much more competative than you make it sound.

 

Fraud is clinging on to his 1,000 pillow begging it to keep him away from Margarito. . . the ****ing yellow belly coward.

 

Cotto just isn't a pure boxer. Cotto's whole career so far he has been a puncher-boxer, more so a puncher. He would stalk his guys and break them down over the stretch of the fight with his body punches. But cotto has a good jab, decent enough handspeed, and decent enough legs to move around. So after a while he developed a style which could protect his weakness. I believe his chin is not the best -- not to say it is china, but it is not the best.

So he, when pressure comes from a fighter he can not dismantle and has been stunned by to some capacity, i.e. Mosley, he fights off the backfoot, throwing counter shots. It worked with Mosley because Mosley was not in his prime when he was an animal in there throwing massive combos with speed, power, and accuracy in bunches upon bunches, and as well as the fact that Mosley fought that way wayyyy too late, had he set in himself to go at cotto from the beginning like he would've in his prime, he would've beat him imo. But Cotto surprised him because he has actual decent movement off the backfoot AND his speed is underrated as well as his jab at the time. He only had to fight like that against mosley for the last 3 or 4 rounds. Against Margo he fought like that the WHOLE FIGHT. He simply does not have the stamina to do that, nor the defensive ability to not somewhere down the line get hit by big shots after a while.

Just purely boxing off the backfoot and counterpunching is not his actual natural style of fighting. His stamina was of course going to decline doing something constantly AND urgently for 12 rounds that is unnatural for him, his defense was going to become weaker (in comes the uppercuts) and he could not sustain the necessary energy it takes to move about like that. He is no mayweather. Although Mayweather doesn't clinch much because of his defensive prowess, he still knows the art of clinching to converse energy and stop the momentum of an opponents attack. Although his style on the ropes, he has the ability to pick you off on the ropes and stay in the pocket and hit and not be hit. Margo doesn't have the speed to hit between mayweather punches. In any case Cotto should've been clinching most of the times he got to the ropes.

 

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Thats why he thouroughly outboxed Zab and Shane. I knew this type of **** **** would happen, preteding Cotto wasnt a top level boxer to take credit away from AM.. . .get lost with tahts **** as ****. AM won give the man his ****in props.

 

Cotto didn't outbox Zab -- he broke him down. Zab Judah only fights really for the first 3 rounds basically and even then he doesn't fight the whole round, he only does things at the very beginning of the round for like 15 seconds and the rest he just got beat up. He was enitrely broke the hell down. Cotto could never outbox Judah, it would be a stupid strategy. Hell even Mayweather couldn't botbox Judah, he had to physically beat him up -- break him down. Cotto broke down Zab with his constant and consistent incoming damage to both body and head from the 3 round onto the 11th.

As for Mosley, Cotto only began to box for the LAST 3 or 4 rounds. For the other part of the whole fight Cotto simply fought in the center of the ring basically with Mosley.

As for AM's victory. I said nothing which diminishes it. Cotto could not beat AM in his natural style, because AM has the better chin and stamina and throws far more punches than him. He tried to box, but he is not a natural boxer and with the pressure of AM he was not going to be able to keep that up and with his defense that is not the best eventually AM would get to him. AM made a subtle change that most probably never saw. He began to throw a jab to throw off cottos range and it set up his uppercuts. And coincidentally that was the round when he had him hurt for the first time. AM's uppercuts also he started to throw them in bunches rather than just throwing one.

I never once said Cotto was not top level. You can't read very well. Cotto is Elite as far as I believe, but he has weaknesses. Although he can counterpunch and box, boxing of the backfoot and using his legs so much is not his natural style. Period, just a brief overview of his fights will show you this.

 

Your legacy was just sealed, definitely one of the top 10 dumbest things I've read here at ESB.

Congrats:hi: