PBF won't stop Pac & he won't outwork him. Therefore no-one can rule Pac out.

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Judah-Mayweather...Judah unofficially had Mayweather touch the canvas with his gloves.

    I like Pac's Southpaw stance against Mayweather. Add in speed and Power but with more discipline than Judah and you got yourself a real fight.
     
  2. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    PBF hasn't fought anyone with Pac's offensive arsenals. (speed, power, multiple combo, tremendous workrate and stamina)

    PBF has the size advantage, but has shown weaknesses in fighting southpaws.

    Pac hasnt fought someone with the defense Floyd has,

    Pac tend to lose balance because of his style

    Pac wont be coming forward carelessly, he moves his head and changes his angles.

    Floyd will be on the defense, he's not beating manny at workrate.
     
  3. GmoNavarro

    GmoNavarro Active Member Full Member

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    For me personally I think it would be easier for Floyd beat pacquiao than marquez, Marquez is very intelligent and yes he is the smaller man in the fight but marquez problems comes with pressure fighters which floyd doesnt have that, of course floyd should be a large favorite and I do think he will win but Pacquiao would get caught in a ton of occasions by floyd just like marquez caught pacquiao and people understimate FMJ power, how many times did marquez counter on pac? Lots of times, now imagine those counter punches with floyd power...I agree with Pimp C, this fight would be close the first 3 rounds, after that FMJ would adjust and just outbox counter and win with ease maybe by KO just like he koed hatton, I am not comparing hatton with pac at all, pac is miles away from hatton but pac does the same mistakes as before he leaves just wide open when he throw the straight left, mayweather would capitalize huge in that, hatton couldnt do it because is not that type of fighter but mayweather? cmon mayweather timing is amazing , I see mayweather having more trouble with marquez because marquez intelligence in the ring is so much better than pacquiao, he doesnt have the pacquiao athletism but he looks in a ring like he is reading a book or playing a chess match, before he throws a punch he already knows what he will do if he doesnt land or if he lands, if the opponent turns right or left just like when he is waiting for a punch, just like mayweather but I think that JMM is a little more intelligent than FMJ in the ring, thats the only advantage a might get to marquez against mayweather, they are very similar, but floyd far more athletic with more power and jmm a little more agressive, thats why i think it will be a decent interesting kind of close fight but at the end floyd will win, not as wide decision as many people think but he will win ok, on the other hand floyd can explote so much more mistakes pac does, and yes you can say pacquiao is very fast and you can say his quickness is unbelieveble(which it is) but I dont think that would bother floyd at all at least past the 3rd round after he sees all pacquiao moves, fmj is just as fast as pacquiao so if marquez could explote all those mistakes pacquiao KEEP doing(which I think, but hatton wasnt the type of fighter he would know how to explote) imagine a faster, more powerful, with a better chin and a hell of a defence improve version of jmm(FMJ) can do to him... And i am not a pacquiao hater, I like the guy, his personality make me root for him but being serious I think marquez would be more difficult for floyd than pac...
     
  4. WAYKURAT

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    :lol::lol: i want pac to fight jmm...its far exciting
    against pbf will just be boring since he will do hit & run as he always does
     
  5. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What happened is he knocked Morales out in two subsequent fights. And he's a 10x better fighter now. He's a way better fighter now then when he fought Marquez. He'll be an even BETTER fighter in his next fight.

    The dude is a complete freak of nature. And his determination and dedication is ungodly. Manny is a nightmare for Floyd.
     
  6. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Floyd will crush Pacquiao with right hands all day. He will exploit Manny's wild style and land those D's on his noggin just like Marquez did. When has Manny ever shown himself to be effective against counter punchers. If Manny doesnt knock Marquez down, he loses, the only reason, the ONLY reason he beat Marquez was becuase he was the better athlete, and Floyd matches him in that department. He wont be fighting a stationary corpse like de la hoya, he wont be fighting a defensiveless brawler in Hatton, he'll be fighting the best defensive fighter of this era, and a fighter who has smarts to go along with his talents.

    Wake up!
     
  7. WAYKURAT

    WAYKURAT Active Member Full Member

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    everytime pac fights, we will certainly enjoy to watch whether win or lose...no chance that it will be a boring fight that mayweather likes..
     
  8. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Based on the De La Hoya and Hatton fights I've got a better increased sense of Pacquiao's durability against some of these heavier fighters. His power is better and his chin seems to be as well. That said his chances have unquestionably improved against Mayweather in my eyes.
     
  9. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think people forget that JMM had to sporadically go toe to toe with pacquiao and aggresively counter punch him to win as many rounds as he did. Floyd mayweather will not do this and will therefore lose alot of rounds. Im not saying pacquiao will definately win but he has a very good chance against pbf although he is an underdog.

    I've said this before and i will say it again, mayweather will not be able to go into the pocket and pot shot his way to a ud as usual against the p4p 1 and 2, he will have to fight them. In my view pacquiaos destruction of hatton shows us just how cautious of a fighter mayweather is. We saw on May 2nd what a real p4p atg does to a fighter like hatton. But then this does beg the question, is mayweather really better p4p then pacquiao?
     
  10. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    If floyd ain't gonna KO JMM then he ain't stoping pac. As long as roach in pac's corner he will have a chance against floyd.
     
  11. Silver

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    both men will present eachother the biggest problems they will have ever faced. as somebody already mentioned, mayweather has never been none as a fighter with a high punchrate. he normally fights at a relxaed tempo and this is in large part due to the fact that he settled for decisions when he knew he had that fight already won. pac-man will force him to fight 12 full rds. but likewise for pac-man, mayweather will cause him problems as well. pac-man still makes mistakes in the ring especially defensively, nobody is better then mayweather at exposeing those types of weakenesses. and mayweather is strong enough to stand toe to toe at times. mayweather is very effective in the pocket. and as you saw with marquez, great counter punching botherd pacquiao, marquez is a great counter puncher, mayweather is even better. both man have the styles, the skill and the talent to beat eachother, not easy victory for either man.
     
  12. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    I have the same opinion on this as I do Marquez/Mayweather, its not impossable for eather of them to beat Mayweather, I just wouldent bank on it.
     
  13. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    Agreed. :good
     
  14. DINAMITA

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    Castillo - Mayweather 1

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    This is such a stupid comment from you eze. If you have actually seen Pac's fights from 03-now, you must know he is a completely different fighter now to the man who lost then twice stopped the great El Terrible.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    floyd ko 11