PDP whos better Ricardo Lopez or JOe Calslappy?

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  1. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    TO me this isnt even close Lopez had waaaaaaaaaay more ability than Calzaghe. Although Resume wise they are similar. I had to make this based on a certain poster on the Calzaghe/Tapia thread insuating that Calzaghe was greater. What do you guys think? I suspect i will hear from a lot of deluisional Calzaghe nuthuggers, but im hoping the knowledgeable minds will prevail.

    Even though i picked Tapia over Calzaghe, i can say they are somewhat close. Lopez/Calzaghe is not even close.:nono
     
  2. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Popkins was not insinuating that, Anarci.
     
  3. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It seemed like it but id figure ill make a thread about it anyways.
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I shouldn't speak for him, but he seemed to be poking fun at some of the Calazaghe fans because their only reasoning for ranking him so high was because of his undefeated record. Popkins then says, Hey, if that's how you like to rank your fighters then you must have Ricardo Lopez higher than Joe considering he went 51-0. He was poking fun at their reasoning, that's all.

    As for the thread, I'm not sure...I could have Calzaghe higher. More thought is required.
     
  5. standing 8countboxing

    standing 8countboxing Well-Known Member Full Member

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    pound 4 pound seems to suggest to me that their skills would have equated to similar results at other divisions. I know this isn't what the pound 4 pound is all about, but pound 4 pound champs usually have this in common, winning in different divisions. Both of these fighters fought in the same division their entire career. I'm going to pass on this one.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Calzaghe? ATG?

    HAHAHAHAHHHAHAAHAHAA
     
  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Pound 4 Pound to me simply means comparing all fighters regardless of weight divisions. Who was more effective at their best? Comparing which fighters fought and defeated the better level of competition. Who demonstrated the most impressive level of longevity, and who accomplished the most? These are questions I ask myself when comparing fighters from different weight classes and era's.

    Briefly, Ricardo Lopez can only really claim to have been a better fighter in terms of ability. Anarci might have something to say about that, though. I would say victories over Mikkel Kessler and Bernard Hopkins trumps virtually anything on Lopez's CV.
     
  8. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    Lopez just fought a bunch of garbage men, he has a horrible resume and to think some people rank him in the top70 is pathetic.
     
  9. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe was a very good fighter but he was not willing to come to the US to prove himself when it mattered.

    Lopez>>>Calzaghe

    even Saldivar was better than Calzaghe
     
  10. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Even Saldivar? Salvidar was greater than Lopez. Beat some real quality at 126lbs, and this whilst being fairly small at 5'3. Very good technician, one of the better body punchers of his time.
     
  11. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I figured it would make you laugh...Saldivar is highly underrated on ESB:D
     
  12. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But like your boy RJ looked great in doing so:D
     
  13. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he wasnt greater than Lopez id rank Saldivar alongside Juan M Marquez.
     
  14. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Saldivar beat at least five fighters who were vastly superior to anyone Lopez even fought, let alone beat.
     
  15. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Sorry anarci, but im gonna have to disagree with you here...I love Lopez, but no way is he greater than Saldivar....Saldivar is easily in the top 4 ATG mexicans...alongside Chavez, Olivares and Sanchez...I'd rank Lopez somewhere around the 7th ATG mexicans, and as much as i love JMM, dude isnt even in the top 10 mexican ATG list, let alone close to Saldivar IMO.....as for the thread, yes Lopez is better than Calslappy.