Pea-Oscar

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    btw whitaker is a classless arrogant *******. Bills story of him at the hall of fame, whitaker actions were disgusting and inhumane.
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 17, 2008
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  2. teeto

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    Thats very interesting actually 'watch the fight, not the fighter', ive seen a lot of both Pep and Whitaker, but i just wanted to see this one because i hadnt.

    As i said though, that is interesting, i was sort of in awe of Whitaker, watching it, and i would say it may have clouded my judgement, however, i had the fight a draw, so i cant have been that delusional, otherwise i would have given it to the guy i liked, which in this case was Pea.

    I did think at times he schooled Oscar though sorry, just how i saw it, and like i say, if not for the headbutt thing, i'd have Pae by 1 point.
     
    teeto, Jun 17, 2008
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  3. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I know, but he had 2 massive wins taken from him, if you think he beat Oscar that is. Im not making excuses for the guy, but it is understandable WHY he felt how he did about his career
     
    teeto, Jun 17, 2008
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  4. jaois138

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    I agree.
     
    jaois138, Jun 17, 2008
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  5. SuzieQ49

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    Im rescoring the fight right now


    right now i have the fight 3 rounds to 3 with the point deduction favoring oscar by a point


    round 1: Oscar 10-9

    Round 2: Whitaker 10-9

    Round 3: Oscar 10-8

    Round 4: Oscar 10-9

    Round 5: Whitaker 10-9

    Round 6: Whitaker 10-9


    Thats Oscar 57-56 halfway through the fight
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 17, 2008
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  6. SuzieQ49

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    Im rescoring the fight right now





    Thats 5 rounds to 4 oscar after 9





    round 1: Oscar 10-9



    Round 2: Whitaker 10-9



    Round 3: Oscar 10-8



    Round 4: Oscar 10-9



    Round 5: Whitaker 10-9



    Round 6: Whitaker 10-9



    Round 7: Oscar 10-9

    Round 8: Oscar 10-9

    Round 9: Whitaker 10-8



    Thats Oscar 85-84 after 3/4 of the fight
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 17, 2008
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  7. SuzieQ49

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    Im rescoring the fight right now





    round 1: Oscar 10-9


    Round 2: Whitaker 10-9


    Round 3: Oscar 10-8


    Round 4: Oscar 10-9


    Round 5: Whitaker 10-9


    Round 6: Whitaker 10-9


    Round 7: Oscar 10-9


    Round 8: Oscar 10-9


    Round 9: Whitaker 10-8


    Round 10: Even 10-10


    Round 11: Whitaker 10-9


    Round 12: Oscar De La Hoya 10-9







    Thats Oscar De La Hoya 114-113
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 17, 2008
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  8. SuzieQ49

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    harold leterman had it 114-112 oscar. he had the exact same scorecard as mine except he scored the 10th for oscar while I had it even
     
    SuzieQ49, Jun 17, 2008
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  9. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rounds 1,5,6,9,10 and 11 to Whitaker.
    Rounds 2,3,4,8 and 12 to DLH.
    Round 7 even.

    Whitaker by a point: 114-113

    Fight could have gone either way and is littered with close rounds.

    I agree with Larry Merchant though that Pernell Whitaker made his statement as to who the better fighter between the two was (all time, that is) regardless of the outcome.
     
    sweet_scientist, Jun 17, 2008
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  10. Thread Stealer

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    I had it even at 113.

    I don't remember the r-b-r.

    I had a poll on this in the general forum, I'll find it. The opinions show how close of a fight it was.
     
    Thread Stealer, Jun 18, 2008
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  11. Thread Stealer

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  12. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Considering the first Ramirez fight, Chavez & De La Hoya fights. Is it fair to say Whitaker's style is not "Judge" friendly. Meaning to say the things he did were so subtle that these moves were lost on the judge's? Because I don't really remember Whitaker ever getting the benefit of the doubt in a fight others might have considered he lost. It was always the other way around.
     
    la-califa, Jun 18, 2008
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  13. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe that was the case against Oscar, but the ramirez and Chavez fights were fixed.

    Pea could have fought like Henry Armstrong and he wouldn't have got the decisions.
     
    Mantequilla, Jun 18, 2008
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  14. round15

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    I had Sweet Pea winning by 2 points bare minimum. It could have been a 3 or maybe a 4 point victory if the knockdown was actually counted for.

    This is one of the three famous gift decisions the Golden Boy received, along with the Ike Quartey and Sturm fights. The Sturm decision was one of the worst I've witnessed in the history of the sport. It wasn't even close.
     
    round15, Jun 18, 2008
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  15. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Thats right, i have the Whitaker fight a draw (like i said though, if it wasnt for that head-butt Pea won imo), Quartey beating him by 1 point, but that was very close, i understand the arguments for Oscar there. But Sturm clearly beat him imo.
     
    teeto, Jun 18, 2008
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