Peak Anthony Joshua Versus Peak Joe Frazier

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ThatOne, Aug 28, 2026 at 3:27 PM.


Who wins

  1. Anthony

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  2. Joe

    85.7%
  1. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua ends up like ha before face down and ass up no matter how "peak" he is.
     
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  2. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

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    AJ hits harder than all of the guys Frazier faced, with maybe the exception of Foreman and that turned into a disaster for Frazier
     
  3. Dynamicpuncher

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    No he isn't.

    Ruiz in reality is only 6'0 he's not 6'2 as listed he's atleast 2 inches shorter than Holyfield.

    Frazier's reach is 73.5 compared to 74 inches for Ruiz a grand total of half an inch.

    So in regards to height/reach there's very little to separate Frazier/Ruiz.

    Ruiz of course outweighs Frazier by a considerable amount but Ruiz is also obese. And atleast 50 pounds overweight which has to be taken into consideration.

    It's not like Ruiz is wall to wall muscle at his weight like Tyson or Tua in their prime.
     
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  4. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I go by the official tale of the tape. If it lists him at 6'2 that's what I go with since I can't personally take a tape measure and measure him.
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well then you'd be completely wrong.

    Just look at any pictures of Andy Ruiz and you'll see he's clearly not 6'2.

    Check out Ruiz's sparring session with Holyfield and you'll see he's clearly shorter than Holyfield.

    Celebheights lists Ruiz as 6'0.
     
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  6. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    My eyes can deceive me. That's why I go by the official stats rather than an anonymous online poster.
     
  7. Fergy

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    The only disaster would be AJ trying to contain the smoke coming his way ;)
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Eyes deceive you ? So it's really hard for your eyes to determine if someone is shorter than their listed height ?

    You can't use your own common sense ?

    Anonymous poster online really ?

    How about doing proper research Ruiz is clearly not 6'2 my guy.
     
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  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Bro, you're talking about 2 inches. Not a foot. Yes, on TV, it can be difficult to discern 2 inches without a frame of reference to compare it to. As far as I'm concerned, until listed otherwise or unless he was wearing shoe lifts, Ruiz is 6'2.
     
  10. Fergy

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    Course he'll hit Joe coming in, but just because Frazier was stopped by George doesn't immediately prove that's gonna happen here.
    Yes, As I've said Joshua can punch hard.
    But George was a special of his own, he was knocking guys off out in to his 40 s.
    Hell he was the linear champ in his 40 s lol.
    Plus George had a different set of whiskers compared to Joshua.
    I can't compare AJ to George Foreman..in any shape or form.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    You stated Ruiz is alot taller than Frazier so yes 2 inches is a big difference. Especially when you're making a claim that's clearly wrong being 6'2 and 6'0 is a substantial difference.

    The height difference between Ruiz/Frazier is an inch at max hence the height has no barring like you were claiming.

    Nor does the reach with there only being half a inch difference between Ruiz/Frazier.

    The only big difference is the weight but Ruiz as i said is obese so that's not beneficial to him compared to if he was actually in proper shape.

    Celebheights lists Ruiz as 6'0.

    You can see Ruiz standing next to any notable fighter and clearly see hes not 6'2 just by using common sense.

    Here's an example of Ruiz with similar footwear standing next to 5'8 Terence Crawford.

    You really think hes 6'2 ? Come off it.

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  12. mcvey

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    Top post!
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    You can compare them in strength and power. AJ was bigger than 70s Foreman and closer to 90s Foreman in size and strength. But faster and technically more sound. Give AJ a better chin and I'd pick him over any version of Foreman. It's just that Foreman will land at some point, although he could be outboxed by AJ.

    But Frazier isn't Foreman.
     
  14. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    He could be 6'2, especially since Crawford is wearing shoes which add an inch or 2 . Like I said I'm sticking with tale of the tape. What, is the tale of the tape a conspiracy by "the man" to trick us peons into thinking Ruiz is taller to make us socialists or something?
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    I think you're deliberately being obtuse here.

    Celebheights lists him at 6'0 they actually obsess over heights.

    Everyone knows Ruiz is not 6'2 just using common sense and viewing actual visual evidence clearly shows you this.

    There's multiple photos of Ruiz being clearly shorter than people listed at 6'2.

    Theres multiple photos of people under 6'0 where Ruiz is barely taller.

    Jarrell Miller at 6'4 towered over Ruiz at the weigh in where it was was clearly visible that there was atleast 4 inch gap comfortably and that there was no way Ruiz was 6'2.

    If you're choosing to ignore whats quite clearly right infront of your face to purposely disagree then this conversation is a waste of my time.
     
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