Peak Joe Calzaghe Versus Peak RJJ and B-Hop

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  1. AdamT

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    I'd slightly favour Hopkins and Jones would smash him
     
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  3. Loudon

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    Based on what though?

    Not only was Roy faster, more powerful and much more elusive, Joe didn’t believe that he could beat Roy.

    He never went all out to pursue the fight when he could have done.

    He’s admitted that he’s not sure whether or not he could have beaten him in his prime.

    Realistically, he didn’t have the confidence or the defence needed to have beaten Roy at his best.

    Even in his prime, he was a level below.

    He struggled with Reid.

    He looked awful against Starie and Thornberry.

    He had a sloppy shoutout against Byron Mitchell, where before he caught him, he missed with poor technique, and had his chin hanging out.

    He was dropped by a non world level fighter.

    He pulled out of 3 fights with Glen Johnson.

    He tried to pull out against Lacy.

    Joe was great in his own right, but he did nothing in his entire career to have been favoured over a version of Roy from the 90’s.

    His comments alone should make you doubt that he could have beaten him.
     
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  5. Rodrigo Boom

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    Calzaghe never said he didn't want anything of a prime Roy. Roy had moved to LHW before Calzaghe became a champion. That said Roy would have been his toughest fight prime for prime. I always think Hopkins was a winnable fight for Joe.
     
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  6. Loudon

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    Joe was quoted in 1999, as saying that he wasn’t chasing Roy, as he didn’t want tough fights.

    He also did nothing to pursue a fight with Roy back then. He made no effort to go to America or go up to LHW to chase down the fight.

    He was just happy doing what he was doing, which is why he ended up making 21 defences of his lowly WBO belt.

    He’s also admitted a few years ago, that he doesn’t know if he could have beaten Roy in his prime.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    RJJ lost against that korean guy though
     
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  8. Loudon

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    Are we debating or not?
     
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  9. BCS8

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    I was just thinking it was a bad loss that's all.
     
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  10. Loudon

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    Yeah.

    That Korean sure gave him a boxing lesson.
     
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  11. BCS8

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    I never expected it to be honest. I wonder what that dude is doing now ...
     
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  12. ThatOne

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    He apologized to Jones saying, I lost the fight. I feel very bad."
     
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  13. BCS8

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    sounds like western propaganda to me
     
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  14. ThatOne

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    Roy Jones, Jr. won the Val Barker Award at the 1988 Olympics as the most technically proficient boxer in Seoul. It was given to him as a sort of apology for what was the worst decision in Olympic boxing history. In the final of the light-middleweight class, Jones faced Korean Park Si-Hun, and punished him. There was no doubt that Jones had won every round, and won each convincingly, but at the end the referee raised Park’s hand. Park even apologized, later saying, “I am sorry. I lost the fight. I feel very bad.”

    One of the judges later revealed that he felt so badly for the Korean, fighting in front of his hometown fans, that he gave him the vote, feeling it would make the result only 4-1 for Jones. Unfortunately, two other judges did the same thing, given the decision to Park, 3-2.

    Roy L. Ilnd JONES
     
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  15. BCS8

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    So RJJ lost the decision and then they gave him a trinket as a participation trophy? Did I understand that right?
     
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