Brilliant observation mate. Tyson did have that look against Holyfield and Lewis, that look to the ref. That's not how it work's in there, Mike!
No, Foreman doesn't shove anything. First of all, he's almost the same weight as Mike, and second, Mike ain't gonna be dumb to wrestle with him.
He's certainly high on the discussion, but a lot of people overrate him. I wouldn't pick him as a top 3 peak ever in HW division to be honest, although he's close.
91 Tyson would’ve lost to Ruddock if 88 Tyson were going to lose to Foreman. Foreman gasses out in this one and gets Pinklon Thomased.
I can sympathize with what you're saying in regard to gassing, Foreman didn't have a great tank in the 70s. Maybe if Mike took the awful shellacking over the first 4 rounds and dragged him into deeper waters... Pinklon Thomas and Razor Ruddock on their respective best days were nowhere near the quality of the George Foreman who knocked the hell out of Frazier and Norton imo. They cetainly never in their entire careers beat anyone the level of either of those 70s fighters...even the post-FOTC Joe was far better than Thomas and Ruddock's top opponents, and better than them overall. But that's just me.
Probably Ali, Louis and Lennox. I prefer fighters who proved their versatility across various styles and classes. I also like the ones with as few weaknesses as possible. Tyson is in the next tier with Wladimir, Holmes, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Jeffries (although it's hard to rate him with little footage). I try to stay away from ranking active fighters, but Fury has to be somewhere here as well.