Peak Of Roy Jones Jr Is?

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  1. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Yeah that's the only time I can recall him lookin like a shark from Jaws. Even against Paz, Toney n Tate he didn't look that bloodthirsty tho he still looked supernatural. Glen Kelly ko was ridiculous too. Fight Night has that behind the back punch as a special like he did that regularly lol.
     
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  2. mr. magoo

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    True. Even though he reigned at light heavy longer than he did any other division, that win over Toney at super middle was probably his best
     
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  3. Saintpat

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    Way too much is made of Toney’s weight. He did that all the time. He weighed 168 just 3 1/2 months earlier for Prince Charles Williams.

    Toney weighed in at 167 and scaled 182 on fight night. Jones was 168 and came into the ring 10 pounds heavier. Not that big a difference, but Roy was just on another level … which is saying something considering how good Toney was.

    People tend to act like we’re talking about Ali of the Holmes fight when discussing Toney that night, lol.

    I suspect on the same night, Toney beats a lot of top super middleweights. But he looked like he was stuck in molasses trying to counter Roy’s speed or trying to narrow the distance vs. Roy’s footwork.
     
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  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah true. Toney was in his prime in my opinion and one of the best p4p fighters in the world. Jones put on a master class performance and cemented his legacy with that win.
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    I believe The Ring had Toney at No. 3 P4P and Roy at No. 4 entering that fight.

    Turned out to be just a paint job for Roy Jr.
     
  6. Mike_b

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    Definately the Ruiz fight, going out on a high note. If not, then after Tarver 1 , coulda pulled that "I beat everyone" slogan kinda like when Lewis gave no rematch to Vitali Klitschko.
     
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    Griffin 2. He came in that suit and was locked in
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

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    I agree Toney certainly didn't look to be struggling with his weight when he poleaxed Charles William's with a perfect right hand prior to his fight with Jones.

    And even if Toney had trouble with the weight vs Jones well that's tough, if Toney wasn't in the best shape for one of the biggest fights of his career that's on him.
     
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  10. Saintpat

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    I sometimes wonder if we knew more about fights from the olden days (when guys fought multiple times a month especially) as much as we know now about fighters going into fights due to reporting, TV commentary and such, how many results we’d look at differently.

    I feel pretty sure that some revered results where this ATG/top guy beat that ATG/top guy we might find that someone struggled to make weight, was coming off the flu, had a hurt hand, etc. … and it just wasn’t reported in the day so we don’t know about it.

    No doubt Harry Greb wasn’t 100% for every one of his fights, but given how many fights he had it’s equally likely that some of his opponents weren’t 100% either.

    Yet today some apologists want to put an asterisk by some results — like ‘didn’t take his job seriously enough to train properly’ is an acceptable thing thus we should put the result aside rather than say ‘that’s a mark against him for not being ready.’
     
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