Pearls of the Orient: The 20 greatest fighters to have come from the far East

The greatest of all was Harada IMO.

 

Greta thread, nice to see Wajima being mentioned among the top 20, he is a very interesting fighter to watch.

 

I am pretty happy with

1. Harada
2. Pacquiao
3. Chang
4. Villa
5. Elorde
6. Ebihara
7. Sahaprom
8. Hong
9. Bus Station
10. Dado, Montana and a few other solid fly/bantam Filipino's in the 30's and 40's could arguably rank 10 or higher, I'm still finding it hard to get a real solid grasp on how good they were individually. Cabanela also, picked up many good wins and fought many very, very good/great fighters. Navarette also. You might wanna' argue Gerry Penalosa in there, even though I'm a big fan he's arguably a cut behind some of these, and the champions I'm about to list below.

In terms of very good champions/titlists, there are quite a few with different merits Arbachakov, Ohba, Yuh, Chitalada, Chionoi, Watanabe, Wonjongkam, Kingpetch, Shibata, Khaosai are in the mix above for no.10 as well.

Penelosa, Villaflor, Saijo, Gushiken, Shirai are among the third tier Asian/Oriental legends IMO.

 

Agreed. If Pacquiao were to beat Marquez convincingly in a 4th encounter it could swing the other way again.

 

This is the trouble with lists. It's purely a how you feel at this moment about so and so sort of venture. I mean, people change their minds. That's natural, but with lists that's always going to happen. I don't think Pacho Villa is #1 but it's not unreasonable. But Pancho Villa didn't even make the top 100. Harada and Chang who's ranked #10 found a place. I don't want to say it's bull****, but after a certain point it just becomes sort of a shuffling the rubric cube ****-storm. Sort of like Terrence Malick's process in the editing room.

 

What list are you talking about?

McGrain made this thread YEARS ago.

 

Any list. Last weeks list, two weeks, a month, a year. Rarely does anyone list stay the same unless it's a top 10 HW list. Maybe a MW one. Nothing changes with the fighters. The influence from others, and we learn more. But sometimes it just changes because our feelings change. There's nothing between a lot of fighters. I'm just getting burnt out from lists. :twisted:

 

Pete, could you list your top 17 biggest burnouts for us, please. P4P, of course.

 

Fair enough.

Agreed there's nothing between a lot of fighters. My 7-10 could essentially be a mix of any of the fighters I listed there and in the shortlist.

The top six? They're the greatest Orientel fighters IMO. No doubt.

 

Be interesting to see you try this list again McG im sure it would look significantly different.

 

edit - double