Pearls of the Orient: The 20 greatest fighters to have come from the far East

Well, I rate Harada's two wins over Jofre higher than Kingpetch's wins over Perez, and they split the two fights among themselves, Harada stopping him in his win. Also, wins over guys like Medel, Caraballo, and Hawkins, more than make up for Kingpetch splitting matches with Ebihara(one of them by stoppage loss).

Also, as far as not rating him highly based on head to head skills, I don't know how to respond to that. One of the best, most relentless swarmers I've ever seen, as he showed so well against Kingpetch himself. Great speed, stamina, and a good punch. Could box well also, as he showed against Jofre at times. I don't see how you couldn't get it, only man to beat Jofre(and he did it twice) says a lot.

As far as the others, if you base Ohba's low ranking on early death(as you solike to do) then I won't argue.

 

I already ate.

But you should revamp your criteria, it's flawed. Galaxy is not an ATG.

 

I think any top fighter with good movement, defense, and accuracy could, and would beat him. Watanabe, Roman, Mijares, etc.

 

He was more than adequate with cutting the ring off.

And once he got you into a corner or along the ropes, the fight was usually over within a minute.

Unbelievable finisher as well. He fought a lot of ex-kickboxers. Tough, tough Thai's...

And he had most of them out cold.

 

Galaxy was very, very accurate himself.

Not to mention that he was never stopped, and from what I've seen is extremely durable...

 

He had little to no footwork, very little defense(used more of a Muay Thai stance as a matter of fact) and was quite lazy. Relied a lot more on strength and power against the level of comp he faced than anything else.

I don't think against an educated jab, and a decent offensive arsenal to go with movement, that he would find his openings nearly as easily, if at all. Someone like Watanabe would handily beat him I think.

 

Of course he was going to rely on strength and power... Did you see how he was built?

Galaxy was a ****ing tank. His back was ripped to shreds.

I don't know if there's ever been a stronger fighter at that weight.

 

He was called the Thai Tyson by a lot of boxing magazines in his hey day.

Not completely accurate, but the same applies vice versa as well

 

Sure, he relied on greatest assets,(and his only assets) strength and power. Kind of like a 115 pound Foreman, just without the size advantage Foreman had on most guys. They worked for him against his opposition, but I'm comparing him to others from stylistic standpoints, and based on styles, I see many fighters around the weight that could beat him. He fought in pretty much the best of the 115 pound era and didn't fight really any of the other top guys.

 

Galaxy did several subtle things George probably couldn't of dreamed up even in his comeback.

George was never as good as Galaxy as cutting off the ring. Ali and Young outboxing Foreman, Morrison doing the same. Schulz did it and was robbed, and light heavy Peralta did so early in George's career.

No one ever did that to Galaxy. His footwork is being sold short here, those opportunities to KO almost every one of the dozen plus contenders for his belt weren't handed to him.

Many good fighters ducked Galaxy as well.

 

TBooze,

Have you seen the Chionoi/McGowan fights? Because I have and Chionoi looked anything but impressive in either fight and was getting outboxed handily both times. The only reason he won was due to cuts suffered by the talented Scotsman, and in the first fight a good argument can be made that the cut that led to the eventualy stoppage was caused by a headbutt (Walter also dropped him twice in the first round).

I don`t know how others here feel, but to me Chionoi was not very impressive on film. He was very slow footed and his defense was very leaky to say the least, although he had a very good chin and power in either hand. Put in someone who will stand and fight with him and he will look like a million bucks, but anyone with a good set of legs and jab would make a ****** out of him like Ohba, McGowan and Alacran Torres did.

Now as for Harada, to me he looks very impressive especially at flyweight. The way he overwhelmed and ultimately stopped Kingpetch was a thing of beaty, and he was only 19! Pone was a fleetfooted guy with a very good jab, and yet he just couldn`t get away from Harada who constantly cut the ring off on him, got inside quickly to take hiis jab away and bull him into the ropes/corners.

In the return Pone got the benefit of having a huge ring but even so he couldn`t keep Harada at bay for long stretches and I had him losing the fight by a significant margin. The decision was nothing short of a gift IMO, as was his winning verdict against Hiroyuki Ebihara who as S_S mentioned definately warrants a spot on the original list posted by the author of this thread.

Sure, he beat Perez twice but the Argentinian was reaching the end of the line and was ripe for the picking... also from a stylistic standpoint he would always have had a difficult time with Pone`s height and reach combined with his quick feet. Besides the two wins against Perez and one good win vs Mitsonuri Seki, his resume is rather thin in terms of success against quality opposition, especially if the decision would have been given to the right fighter in both his returns against Harada/Ebihara.

Good fighter was Pone, but an all-timer he wasn`t at least in my opinion. Now as for Hiroyuki it is interesting to take into account Horacio Accavallo`s thoughts on him, considering what a excellent little fighter the Argentinian was. According to him, Ebihara was the hardest hitting and most dangerous opponent he ever faced, and he had to fight much more defensively against him than he was accustomed to.

Hiroyuki`s KO record is very deceiving at first glance... the man was a genuine banger and could take almost anyone out with a single punch.
Notice that on his record 3/4 of his stoppages are clean KO`s and not TKOs, which is why Accavallo was wary of him in both of their encounters after getting hurt early on and almost taken out in the first fight against him.

As for Moon I agree he was rather limited from a technical standpoint, although he threw more short, compact punches early in his career as opposed to later on when he became a free swinging slugger. The thing with Moon was that even though he was so sloppy, all he needed was one good punch to turn the tide in a fight. The man was a frightening puncher, if one looks closely most of the knockdowns he scores against his opponents come from seemingly harmless looking punches, if not grazing shots and here is the scary part... they are all arm punches!

Had he had better punching technique and learned how to effectively put his full body weight into his punches he would have had even more success than he did and his name would come up regularly when talking about alltime punchers (although he deserves a mention as it is). While he was limited technically, he did carve himself out a nice run as champ and deserves a spot among the top twenty, perhaps even in the lower end of the top ten. I haven`t attempted a list of my own, but I must say that I like yours wit a few exceptions here and there, but good job nonetheless.

 

Edgar Omar Monserrat was a very solid fighter that Galaxy fought as well.

Huge reach and height advantage over Galaxy. Threw educated jabs from the southpaw stance, tried measuring Galaxy and cutting him down with a straight left...

Galaxy just caught up to him in two and destroyed him.