PED use in boxing - Is it particularly an American based problem?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by ELECTRIC GURU, Jan 29, 2013.


  1. pong

    pong Boxing Addict Full Member

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    depends on the country germany has the strictest testing out there even stricter then floyd wants, spain is a free for all a doping doctor is on trial there now and claims he worked with a boxer, england has a solid not great system
     
  2. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    This is a tremendous post, giving ESB a revealing insight into the positive steps being taken in British sport to rid our nations of PED cheating disgraces from representing us.
     
  3. dendy

    dendy no easy way out Full Member

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    Yes they are, like I mentioned in my previous post, the british boxing board of control are doing random blood testing.. Not enough of it is being done but some of the top fighters have been tested randomly so it has to be said it is a positive start.

    Is this the case in America or is it still the case of urine tests before and after and only random blood testing when USADA are asked to be involved leading up to a fight? eg. Mayweather insists on testing
     
  4. ELECTRIC GURU

    ELECTRIC GURU Active Member Full Member

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    Thank you for such a valuable contribution to this thread pong.
     
  5. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Steriod is rife in American sports, boxing in particualr. Almost every American superstar boxer of the past 20 years has been on PEDs. Mosley, Holyfield, Tarver, RJJ, Toney.... the list is endless.

    In the UK, the sense of fairplay is still very strong. It is not like American - win at all costs or be forgotton about. When Dwain Chambers was caught doping the UK althetic commitee banned him for life and it was only the threat of being sued and the ruling of the World athletic body that allowed him to compete again.

    Th fact that Americans even rate fighters like RJJ, Mosley, Holyfield, Toney, Tarver etc just sums it all up. In the UK these guys would be outcasts and not given the time of day by anyone.
     
  6. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    of course America has a pedemic problem and is the PED capital of the World per capita.:D
     
  7. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly, but Americans seem to think that the likes of Holyfield are ATGs - how is that possible? Everything he ever did in boxing has a huge question mark by it. But people try to say it was only when he went to HW and got old....:patsch
     
  8. Arcane

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    Can't say for sure, but we do know Enzo Mac is a known abuser and he was in the same stable as Joe Calzaghe (a guy who loves to snort coke) so I personally wouldn't put it past Calzaghe to have been juicing during his famous wins over the Mkretchyen and Pudwill but that's not to say it's a UK based problem.
     
  9. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair enough...
     
  10. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what? you mean like RJJ or Holyfield who are always mentioned as top 50 ATGs..

    As for Armstrong, give it a year and he will be back on top. Not in sports (he is too old) but he will have books, foundations and maybe even his own TV show.
     
  11. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If that happens then it's a disgrace. But I wont be surprised. Americans are hypocrites as long as it's their own, it OK. But a foreigner there will be a huge out cry to hang the dude.

    :lol:
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Armstrong is a disgrace, I always suspected him of cheating. I doubt he will get anything back he's being threatened from law suits all over the place and might even end up in jail when it's all said in done. The guy is done and hated here.
     
  13. Barry Smith

    Barry Smith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko is a proven steroid cheat and he is still a hero to many people on here, so it's not just an American problem.
     
  14. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    One thing I've learned is that you never know. I'm a huge baseball fan and there have been skinny, bulky, and even fat (see Bartolo Colon) players busted. Most of the busts weren't even the top tier guys.

    If my favorite childhood baseball player can be outed (Wally Joyner) then so can my favorite fighters.
     
  15. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nothing to do with PEDS but in American they love to knock you down to see you come back up again.

    In the UK they love to build you up just so they can knock you back down.

    Armstrong will be back as a crediable person in America.

    If all else fails he will play the Jesus card.