PEDS- Cheating or just part of the game

I've found that the toughest call is lying to patients for reasons of health, it comes back to haunt you because you in retrospect feel you may have made things worse by lying.

 

There are clean fighters who play by the rules and we should be thankful for their professionalism and honor, for if they decided to take the roid route, we'd begin to lifeless corpses laid out motionless on the canvas.

Can you imagine if the likes of GGG, Klitsckhko, and Kovalev - men who go through stringent Olympic style random testing - decided to roid themselves up?

The pallbearer may as well be second in line to the referee at ringside if that were to occur.

 

but taking things from work is fine if its not hurting individuals. ..this is a whole different kettle of fish..

 

Ok enough about me. I don't condone cheating. Cheating is cheating but I also think it's part of the game, so I haven't voted cause I don't know how.
I listed some boxers above who get caught and some who are suspicious.
Those fighters are mostly my fav whose fights I almost watched all, now give me a suggestion how I should feel?

 

pity.

KNowing that they may be harming themselves more than anyone else. Each of us only gets one life, messing it up with PEDs isnt worth it.

 

If your going to cheat cheat fair

 

The dangers of using peds is overplayed. If it is cycled and monitored correctly then the individual isn't like to experience detrimental side effects.

It's when it is wantonly abused and mixed alongside other hormonal agents such as insulin, HGH, diuretics as well as estrogen blockers, that's when the some of the more notorious nasty sides come into the equation

 

I think the whole everyone is cheating is a cop out and often used as a way of white washing an athletes transgressions. "It's OK because everyone is cheating."

I think genetics and hard training will have a greater influence on performance than drugs and hard training, at least until gene editing becomes common place in sports, then I expect records to fall everywhere. I believe that some athletes are just better than others and no amount of drugs can help some athletes. Which is why you have guys caught doped up to the eye balls who never reach top level and then some scrawny little kid blow past you. Like Bolt who at 16 ran a time that would of got him 5th in the 200m Rio final against grown men, some who are likely doping. Now I'm not naive maybe Bolt doped as an adult but as a scrawny 15 or 16 year old when he was setting times adult athletes can't do now, it seems highly unlikely at that age when no money was on the line and you never know if an athlete that young will turn pro it's a stretch to think he was doping.

 

Spot on.

The dangers of steroids are definition overplayed.

Looks at big Arnold, he's been on steroids since he was about 15, and he's never stopped using. He seems very healthy to me for a man of his age.

Of course they can be abused and they may kill you, but so can other common drugs like alcohol, nicotine etc.

 

Everybody uses something or has used something on the "prohibited" list.
Everybody.

Of course, there are different degrees of cheating and using. But everyone uses drugs at some point.
And some athletes somehow get "medical exemptions" to use drugs all the time. That's the truth of the matter.

I don't know why athletes are expected to be "clean" from drugs, when people with far less demanding jobs are allowed to take almost anything to enhance their performance.

 

you seem to know all the answers on all the PEDs.

If they werent called PEDS, would you be willing to reguarly put shyt in you that you had little knowledge of?

 

A lot of students take stimulant or nootropic drugs to help them study and revise for exams.
They take these "smart pills" and caffeine before exams too, to help them concentrate and focus.

I don't think that's considered cheating. Not officially and not culturally.
Some people may advise against it (strongly even), but for health and safety reasons, not because they consider it immoral or cheating.

Taking drugs that help performance is generally not considered cheating in any field whatsoever.
Athletes are the only ones singled out to remain "clean" and "pure".
The rest of society just gets on and takes the drugs with no issues, no guilt.

 

hes had heart surgery at the age of 50. That would be what you expect for someone very UNfit.

 

I don't take PEDS myself however I've extensively studied them. Which is how I know the telltale signs of a boxer who is a roid user.

 

Yup and these athletes have
1. A much more competitive and ambitious, "whatever it takes" mindset than the average guy with mediocre ambitions. Especially in a ruthless sport like boxing
2. Millions of dollars on the line
3. An already cruel amd savage job as professional boxers, which includes beating another human being into unconcsiousness. PEDs just make them better at that job.


Lol at the post mentioning health dangers of peds. Getting hit in the head fpr a living is far more dangerous than taking PEDs that actually enhance your quality of life(which is why they get perscribed by anti aging clinics)