PEDS- Cheating or just part of the game

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about but are a slave to mainstream science that you are incapable of investigating outside the box.

People like you will die from common man illnesses such as cancer, heart disease and, kidney failure or just rot slowly wrinkled up at the mercy of your doctor's door wondering how and why, begging them to help do something to end the misery asking ''why me".

Ignorant individuals such as yourself deserve what's undoubtedly coming to you.

 

imo all the major boxing countrys should do random drug tests of all there top 20 fighters at least 6 times a year
miss 3 tests in a year and 4 year ban worldwide
if caught using a stimulent or recreational drug mandatory 1 year ban worldwide
if caught using a performance enhancing steroid or whatever derivitive it is automatic 2 year ban worldwide
if second offense life ban worldwide.

in america where the vast majority of pro boxers are there must not be individual state rules there must be one drug body that every state has to come under and 1 set of rules for the drug tests.

 

You know absolutely nothing about me, I know a lot more than a peasant like you could ever even think to fathom.

I read your posts on here and you post things that make sense, but then you also post utter garbage.

Oh, and I find it possible, but highly doubtful, that I will die of any of the aforementioned conditions, as not a single person in my family has had any of them. I will also throw in Alzheimer's as this has never occurred in my family either.

 

If you knew anything worth knowing you wouldn't have laughed off at the idea that aphrodisiac and adaptogenic herbs can mimic the efforts of synthetic testosterone.

The reason why this fails for most is because many do not know how to use them in conjunction with one another.

Do you really believe a scientist is more intelligent and more powerful than nature?

You probably get your knowledge off Google and bodybuilding.com rather than through books and experience. I can only assume this is where you get your juvenile dismissive attitude from.

It's quite telling that you seem to think you can only develop the conditions which I mentioned in my previous post, through genetic disposition.

If this is your belief then I can only wish the best while you learn the hard way.

 

Not once did I say you can only develop them conditions due to genetics, this is a trait you have which I see in almost every post you make, you always twist, or exaggerate, what the other poster has said to strengthen your argument.

However, if you don't believe genetics play a part then your delusional. Its a fact, not an opinion, that some genes cause dementia, I don't have these genes. Now this doesn't mean I won't get dementia, but it means my risk is lower. I won't go into detail on the other conditions as you are so good at research, if you wish to find out.

Oh, and for the record, your **** at reading people. I ALWAYS do my own research on anything, never would I believe what a doctor etc tells me to be the be all and end all, I'll do my own research and make my own mind up, reputable sources only, no forums. Not just with this, with everything. So to think I'm one of these sheep who believe everything they read on facebook, was a serious error in your judgement. I'm not even on Facebook as it's full of bull****.

Now be on your way.

 

It's not cheating, it doesn't give people an unfair advantage. If anything, it levels the playing field. How else would little small guys like Paq be able to compete with naturally bigger stronger guys? Genetics aren't fair themselves! PEDs put everyone on the same level physically which allows less athletically gifted, skillful fighters a chance against more physical fighters.

 

Cheating is cheating. It's also part of the game. I like it to be controlled more strictly.
But a lot of people read the word drugs or PED and then all their moral sense popped out and elected to choose a moral high ground like it is a sin like leprosy in the biblical era.

I'm no expert, but I think most drugs contains PED it some sort. You take it when you are sick, prior to surgery or so forth. We just don't question them as they are prescribed by an authority.
Almost all top athelete takes drugs, some are unlisted as banned not because they are not PED, it's just that the regulating body is too slow to detect or the direct benefit is unknown at that stage.
If you took a sample of all athletes that passed the drug test 15 years ago and retest them, chances are majority of them will fail.
So the so call heroes you have will be no longer heroes in today's standard.

 

i can't believe what im reading how is "everyone does them" winning this poll!?

in boxing using PEDS is disgusting and anyone caught not only should be banned for life but also go to prison for a lengthy sentence, its playing with people's lifes no different to what Antonio Margarito did to Cotto with the gloves if any of you condone the use of PEDS are not real boxing fans im sorry

i care for the boxers that go into that ring to put on a show for us fans enough to see them get hurt.

 

I personally believe everyones taking "something". Some of them may just be borderline llegal however.

 

So, an athlete has been taking substance A for 10 years and this substance A become listed as performance enhancing drugs starting on the 30/12/2017.
That athlete was notified prior to this date and stop using.
Is this athlete a PED user?
What happened if he/she continued using and got caught but claim doesn't know about the sudden change?

 

Forget PED's. Genetics are the ultimate unfair advantage!

I think it's horse**** that guys like Jeffries, Johnson, SRR, Dempsey, Greb, Lennox, Tyson, Ali, Klitschkos, Roy, and Foreman got to enjoy huge advantages just because they were born with the genetic gifts 99% of the population didn't have and couldn't replicate regardless of discipline, training, or hard work.

The juice is the great equalizer, yo!

 

every fighter signs a contract which would be up to date so if they sign it then they are liable

 

Are they drug cheat though?
They are substance user, but technically they are clean cause the substance was not banned at the time.
Now, you'll see most top athelete has a medical team behind them, so all or most of them are taking something.

 

once the system comes into play any fight with the contact signed with that governing body (wba wbc etc) would have it in the contract so yeah if they signed the contract with the changes to the rules them they are drug cheats

 

Lets take a marvel that only comes around every so often - ie, SRR, SRL, RJJ, FMJ. The first two are considered P4P top 1-15 greatest ever. No one denies that claim. No controversy surrounds their tight spot at Number 1 and 11-12 P4P greatest ever.
These last two. Unbelievable talent, unbeatable in their primes, King of PPV numbers during their reign. Are their legacies tarnished by half the population? Abso-freakin-lutely. You can come up with whatever excuse you want, the gut wrenching feeling that they were able to compete, as long as they did, and as well as they did, was use of PED and IV Bags. The question that drives gnaws at the heart "Would they able too without Antibiotic Steriods or without IV Fluids to re hydrate? A cheater is a cheater. Next topic I suppose is going to be - Plaster of Paris - Legit or Noway?
Someone who steals 1 million dollars is a thief, someone who steals 1 dollar is a thief no matter how you look at it.