PEDS- Cheating or just part of the game

both?

 

Anyone caught using PED's should get am immediate life ban or make all PED's legal. The problem you have with the ban for life is Who do you get to enforce it ??? Donr say The State commissions LOL Theyve been known to issue TUE's to boxers THREE WEEKS AFTER they were caught breaking the commissions own rules
ROFL It'd be like putting a fox to guard the chicken house

 

Cheating is wrong. This is not just some precious conceit, it confers an unfair advantage.
It rips off everyone else unwilling to violate legal & ethical standards of decency.
When it tips the advantage too far, it is a safety concern in combat sports.
While monitoring & care can reduce risks, nobody can say what level of drug use is safe.

Let's not confuse it with things like medicine or say hormone replacement therapy.
Unlike steroids, those are taken in small quantities to replace deficiencies.
And the most effective courses are overwhelmingly large doses with potentiators like insulin.

Taking things bad for your health is different from cheating with PEDs.
Refined sugar in reasonable amounts, consistent with activity levels, is not "poison".
Alcohol IS in significant amounts. But like the drug aspirin, in SMALL amounts actually is good for people. It reduces the risk of disease overall.

MANY cheat. I see no support whatsoever for the cynical assumption that EVERYONE does.
Though there is a huge difference between dabbling & building a nody & career around PEDs.
Tough it is all wrong. It is a terrible example for children, & nobody will ever know-or the user themselves IF they successfully hide their crimes-how much success they could have had clean.

Arnold did not use for a "lifetime". He would not look scrawny for years if he did.
Bodybuilding itself is healthy-but not the drugs that often go with it.
But that is only some athletes-& virtually all pros in untested leagues.
And the very dehydrated state competitors are in just before a show.

 

the baseball thing is bs anyways. unless every player in the majors was clean pre lockout. then used peds up a storm during and after the lockout. the league juiced the crap out of the balls to draw interest back to the game.

 

so are you implying you are immortal? that you will only die of something uncommon?

 

because there should be a third choice. everyone does them, but it isn't okay.

 

It depends on who you are and who your promoter is. PEDS are legal for WARD..................look at SOB's back in the rematch, acne, not to mention Tony Weeks, stopping the fight on low blows for SOB! If this stands, change the decision of the Bowe/Golota fight to two knockouts of Golota, but Golota did not have the pull of SOB!

Reminder: call Bob Bennett about corruption in boxing, esp. judge BYRD...............you can make a difference, she is back to judging like Teddy Atlas said...........Jim Lampley asked us to call, gave out this number: 702-486-2575

 

Of course I'm not implying I'm immortal

Maybe the closest it. When one is sufficient in knowledge of very ancient kriya and Taoist yogic practices which help stifle deterioration and encourage continuous regeneration of the cells which when healthy, are replaced in a 7 year cycle, then you can be very confident that you are in good health

In order to achieve such a resilient constitution that knows not of rapid deterioration, one must have knowledge on how to avoid the pitfalls of succumbing to a poisonous diet.

Most disease if not all, simply comes down to imbalance on one or more levels simultaneously. Once you know how to manipulate the gut which is the immune system and second brain, along with sustaining a healthy emotional body that isn't overrun by fear and stress than you will be able to laugh at all sickness and disease.

One simple step is to learn how to breath properly as a human being rather than as an automaton. Shallow breathing makes one susceptible to stress and anxiety leading to poor decision making and having ones nervous system remain in the sympathetic modus of fight and flight. You then remain in a state of unease and become a stranger to true rest which results in rapid aging and deteroriation.

Those who come to me to humbly receive the practical steps necessary to transform their bodies, always say, they now know what it means to live.

 

What the fuk is this lol?

 

Of course it's part of the game because people are still doing it everyday in the sport. There's no denying that but legally or morally, it is still cheating so both parts of the thread questions is correct.

 

sweets!

 

i completely disagree that everyone is doing it, at most like 0.5% is doing it in some sort of way

 

I don't believe everyone is doing it, but I think it's much more prevalent that that. For example look at the percentages of athletes caught at Beijing and Athens. Both higher than 0.5% and only reason London isn't as high yet is they won't have retested every athletes old samples yet with the latest tests. Then factor in there will be athletes that will have doped and cycled off successfully before the games and that there are many sports like boxing where the testing is less stringent, it has to be higher, especially at the elite level.

https://sportsanddrugs.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004420

 

Everyone is at it. The really big names with the well connected promoters are able to allow their fighters to freely cycle on and off without any threat of failing a test.

So we already have a playing field which is not level, because of the corruption in this sport. The same can be said of others sports but boxing is up there in terms of corruption

I say "Let them Juice". At least then the less connected fighters are able to take the same PEDs as the well connected ones, and not risk bans and suspensions.

 

That's not true. It does both. One leads to the other.

If, for example, I take a stimulant to help me focus and stay awake to study, I will acquire more knowledge than I could have done without the drug in the same period.
I have acquired drug-enhanced levels of learning.
I've been able to learn more in the period of time than what I would have learned naturally.
Likewise, if I take the drug just before a 3 hour exam, I will be able to retain better focus for the entire 3 hours where I might have lost that focus and effeciency if I'd not take the drug.

It's no different to athletes taking PEDs.

And that issue doesn't really matter in the case of athletes.
An athletic career is short, drugs or no drugs.
If an athlete believes drugs are needed to have the successful career, he will take them or find another career.
LIke you say, Life is long. And varied. Life goes on after sports, and full time competitive sports don't represent a balanced lifestyle anyway. It is extreme.
People can make choices. Often they choose to take the drugs to be competitive and make a livng. Others choose to do something else.

Most people take drugs. That's the world we live in.
I'm a caffeine man myself.