PEDS = Irrelevant. Boxing is 90% mental anyway

I reckon Prime Tyson could scare the PEDs out of some of the fighters he fought.

 

Total bull**** thread. Performance ENHANCING Drugs, by name and definition, enhance performance.

All I can hope is that you have not yet contaminated the gene pool by spawning children.

 

that's the same tripe baseball players expect us to swallow... notice how the homeruns have dropped significantly since testing has begun. Anything that makes you significantly stronger, cuts fat, and aids in recovery is definitely going to help you.

 

The Stronger The Mind,The Stronger The Body .........

The Stronger The Body The Stronger The Mind :deal

work it out

 

If I gave you a bullet proof vest you would walk around stronger mentally. Thus had nothing to do with PAC, but your a fool who has never been in a ring

 

I think they should let boxers juice themselves til they explode.:roll:

 

hahaha

 

If you can trow 100 punches per round instead of 60 without gassing out it can eventually helps you a great deal. That said I believe that a lot of boxers dope and I don't care.

 

I understand what your trying to say. Roids do mess with you mentaly and will cause you to be more aggressive hence the term "roid rage". So I'll agree that a roided fighter (having steroids in his system during a fight) might make some mistakes like getting overly aggressive, lose focus, and not be as patient.

But what about a fighter that has only been juicing up during training and is of a sound mind come fight time?

And what about HGH and EPO's? I don't think these mess with you mentals the way steroids do.

 

PEDs are foul play especially when used by a fighter in Pacs or Floyds level.

Think about it, Pac is already greater than Floyd as it is. Now PAC on HGH or EPo would brutalize Floyd. This is why SRs petrified at the prospect. You cant blame him nor Floyd.

Now I think Pacs clean but this is precisely whats troubling Floyd.

 

That is some stupid ****. we are not talking about sprinting or weight lifting where the difference is winning and losing we are talking about a violent contact sport. PEDS could be the difference between being a mental cabbage or just having slurred speech.

Indifferent boxing fans towards PEDS are the biggest threat to the sport IMO.

 

PED's will not directly result in someone being a champion however they could easily be the difference in equal talent fighters. There is a huge perormance benefit to using certain drugs, ranging from speed,agility,power and toughness as well as the mental strength that comes along with it.

 

PEDs are irrelevant...... why are they banned again?

 

The blog post linked below should be of interest to anyone interested in the utility of EPO in boxing. It covers a study done of the effect of EPO on cyclists.

The short version of it is that EPO allowed athletes to perform at peak output for 54% longer before reaching the point of exhaustion. This was after just a four week course of EPO.

Think what that means for the second half of a fight for instance. Take as a hypothetical example, two equally fit athletes, going at it hard. If the clean fighter reaches the point of exhaustion after 8 rounds, the EPO using fighter wouldn't reach that point even after 12 rounds.

Knowing that you aren't going to gas would also have psychological benefits, but the physiological advantage alone is absolutely overwhelming. It won't let a very unskilled boxer beat a fighter who is miles out of his league, but if the two are even remotely in the same league as each other, the EPO using boxer is going to have an absolutely massive advantage in the second half of the fight.

EPO is relatively easy to get hold of and a boxer would have to fabulously stupid or unlucky to be caught using it.

Steroids are a different issue in that they improve strength and aid recovery rather than enormously increase endurance. They don't have quite as drastic an effect as EPO (which is the one drug that has transformed a huge range of professional sports), but they do result in substantial, measurable increases to strength and to the ability to recover. Both of these advantages are incredibly useful to a boxer. Again, a boxer would have to be stupid or massively unlucky to be caught, given the lax testing regime.

Both steroids and, much more so. EPO and other forms of blood manipulation are dangerous to the user in and of themselves. In a sport like boxing they are lethal. A cheat on a comprehensive doping programme will hit harder and will be able to do it for much longer. That's the sort of thing that gets more people killed or permanently disabled.

http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/effect-of-epo-on-performance-who.html

Boxing fans, in my view, do not generally understand the transformative effect of EPO. In cycling the term used is that it turns a carthorse into a racehorse. But cheating cyclists are only swindling their opponents out of money and prestige. Cheating boxers are doing something much worse. The use of PEDs should be regarded in the same light as loading your gloves.