People are being pretty hard on Kovey.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by slender4, Aug 6, 2018.


  1. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Thr ship is being boarded now by those who called him a bum in the past etc... now he's great all of a sudden.. Hmm... I wonder why that is. Reminds me of Froch. All of a sudden all Aard fans became his biggest fans. Same with the likes of Hatton etc..

    That's even worse in my eyes.
     
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  2. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    He had a point though.Ward had everything his way
     
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  3. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Good post Slender 4.

    I think Kovalev still has the skills. He just doesn't have the desire to condition his body into what it should be.
     
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  4. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward won the fights regardless of excuses. Ward has 2 wins and Kovalev none. He can complain yet I think part of his problem was this stubbornness made him not want to improve.
     
  5. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ward lost that first fight !!
     
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  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Style make fights.

    Genetics make fighters.
     
  7. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    Would you give credit to the fighter attempting to tackle you to the floor so he doesn't get KO ?

    All this with the benediction of the home ref, and then the pre-filled scorecards?

    He always had to watch Ward's headbutts and low blows because he knew the ref would be doing nothing to warn him.
     
  8. TheyDontBoxNoMore7

    TheyDontBoxNoMore7 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    That’s funny. I’ve seen guys try to put down Kov mainly to **** on Ward. It’s not like Kovalev has gotten the Linares or Jacobs treatment where these guys who really haven’t done anything make someone an ATG after losing. Look at their resumes and accomplishments and look at what Kovalev has done. Fickle people at best.
     
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  9. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    not on the record, and that matters. I always heard, Hearns beat Ray in the second fight. Not on the record. So he really didn't. Those judges mean everything. If the fighter does not try and get that decision regardless of judges who don't know how to judge, they don't win the fight.
     
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  10. GK BOX

    GK BOX Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know what you mean
    After watching that fight live I can’t get Andre credit for the W
     
  11. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    lol at your extremely incorrect assumptions about fighters and when they peak. Haven't you been supposedly watching the sport for decades? Because all I'm hearing is A-B-C logic.

    There is no average. Every single fighter is different and unique in how they age, and it varies immensely between weight classes. Guys have peaked at 17 like Wilfred Benitez, where as fighters like Archie Moore, George Foreman and Bernard Hopkin's have fought until they were nearly fully 50 years old. GTFO out of here with you acting like your generalizing is accurate.
     
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  12. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I've counted but I didn't write it down so I'm not sure its exact. I would say 15-17.
     
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  13. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    35 years is about what you get in boxing (or 15 years as a pro, whichever comes first). The skills generally go into decline at 33. A great fighter can prolong it to about 37. There are a few outliers like Paq, Stevenson and of course Hopkins and Archie Moore was in a class by themselves, but as a general rule of thumb it is 35.

    Reading is fundamental, Sport.
     
  14. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I thought Kovalev did enough to win Ward I.

    DID ENOUGH being the important phrase there. He wasn't dominant, he wasn't impressive and it wasn't a good fight. I think he won more rounds than he lost but it was sloppy and debatable, it wasn't by any stretch a robbery.

    Ward then did what champions do, he gave him an immediate rematch. What else could he have done? The fact is that Kovey had 24 rounds to lay his hands on Ward and he could not prove he was the better man. As far as I'm concerned, that's that.
     
  15. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I read your **** man, it's just not particularly correct information and it's pointless to keep regurgitating it on internet forums as if it is fact.