people are chaning opinion after watching fight with no sound

:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

It's hard to watch on mute. You have to hear the fist landing. I wish they'd give us the option to have a broadcast without commentary, but still with sounds.

 

HBO commentary was terrible, you'd think Bradley landed nothing all fight but one round if you listened to them... Even trying to be unbias, it's a bother when they're constantly ignoring Bradley's work and praising everything Pac does, even if it doesn't land.

Bradley does not have to HURT Pacquiao to win rounds.. And No, I didn't score the fight in favor of Bradley.. It's just stupid to think he only won 1 or 2 rounds at most.. Watch it without sound, Pac does not outwork, outland, control distance better and dictate the pace better than Bradley for 10 rounds...

 

My friend clearly changed his opinion from the bull**** Lederman scoring to a more reasonable 8-4/7-5 scoring.

Manny still won, but it was no where near the landslide that the HBO crew, or the ****** *******s on this site, have it as.

 

Very close fight, I had given the first 3 rounds to Tim, 4 and 5 clearly for Pacquiao, I gave the last three rounds to Tim and if you find a round in between six and 9 you can easily see how Tim won a close MD.

Lampley was on Mannys balls hard core, and those Compu Box stats are ****ing scary as all hell no way did Manny land at that high of a rate, alot of Mannys shots were blocked and or slipped.

Just because you hear a thud after Manny throws a shot doesnt mean he scored, because a fighter who has his hands up and blocks a solid shot that makes a louder sound than the shot that lands, and Manny was given credit for Blocked shots based on sound and Tims head moving when that shot was blocked, your head is going to move when you block shots with your gloves the force will drive your head that direction.

No robbery here what so ever, Manny did not attack the body either, Manny and Bradley fought tit for tat and there were very few moments when either guy did much to separate themselves in those close rounds.

I am happy with the outcome, the scoring on the fight was spot on and should be admired, there is no way you can argue 10-2 for Pac or 10-2 for Bradley with a fight this close the scores only proved that we had very good judges that night who did their job regardless of who got the win the scoring was that tight.

 

HBO didn't say Bradley hit Pac so therefore he didn't..

 

I have to disagree. I think Pac took it easy becasue he was timing Tim til he opened up. Tim would throw a lot of meaningless punches, most blocked and Pac would just counter. In the last minute he would just step it up just to seal the rounds in which Tim was ineffective. It doesn't just work one way, Pac may not have done much, but Tim didn't do anything to win the rounds either. Tim looked tired, fought in spurts and was largely ineffective. Pac on the other hand looked patient and countered so he wouldn't get caught being wild.

 

use your eyes to score not your ears alot of times you hear shots that sounded like bombs when in reality the glove blocked that shot and the leather on the gloves when the shot is blocked makes for a snapping sound.

you dont need the audio to score this you have to look at the shots that are actually landing so its good to watch it on Mute that way your not influenced by any commentary, nor the *******s who will cheer and roar even if Mannys scratches his ass. or the Blocked shots that sound and sometimes look like they have landed

 

:goodthumbsup

 

I was not really listening to HBO commentary, because I was busy with IB RBR. IB is better than lampley. IB needs to replace those mothafockaz, commentating while doing his **** in ESB RBR:deal

Pac 8-4 (9-3)

 

Ledermans scorecard was **** and the commentators sound like dick gobbling cheerleaders.................but i think Manny should have won 116-112 or 115-113

 

you suck.

 

So let's see what the majority scored the fight...

Fight score collector site

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As Jim Lampley said when Big George Foreman knocked out Michael Moorer to win the Heavyweight Title at 45....IT HAPPENED. Well it did happen as thousands of paying fans and millions of viewers across the world watched as the judges delivered the ROBBERY of 2012 so far when for some reason they scored this fight for Timothy Bradley. The challenger Bradley didn't fight a bad fight , he was just like many before totally in awe of the Pacman's speed and power. It took him a good 8-9 rounds to finally get into the fight and to his credit i think he clearly won the last 3 rounds , all this with a bad ankle injury from earlier in the fight.

I hope the fight fans don't turn on the Desert Storm as he gave his all and it looked as it would be classed a good effort again the future hall of Famer. Bradley was hurt 3-4 times in the first half of the fight as Pacquiao was able to land that straight left ,mostly at will. Bradley was competitive in these rounds but the champion was landing the harder shots and it looked as if it was just a matter of time before Bradley folded.

There was many fans and press members who picked Bradley to win because of Pacquiao's last 2 Dull performances vs Mosely and Marquez. Bradley talked the talk before the fight and during the fight he certainly walked the walk especially through those last rounds. After 6 Rounds i had him 60-54 down but as i said he wasn't fighting that bad , its just Pacquiao was BETTER. I gave Bradley the 7th as i felt he matched the champions work rate but this time he landed the better harder punches inside. It was a start. Although many felt he was still miles behind Bradley started slowly to come into the fight.

The next 2 rounds were quite hard to score a Bradley was probably doing the better work early in the round , Pacquiao though would hit back hard in the last minute landing the telling shots as Bradley would duck for cover , do anything basically to avoid the tornado of punches. I gave these 2 rounds to Pacquiao as i felt he did land the better shots in comparison the jabs and light right hands from Bradley.

The 10th , 11th and 12th were different though , Bradley boxed nicely on the back foot , Pacquiao seemed to drop his pace a la De La Hoya vs Trinidad.. this would cost him the fight as the judges amazingly had this one close at this stage. When the final bell sounded i was sure that Manny Pacquiao had done more than enough even with taking those last 3 rounds off... BUT the drama was just about to start. The scores were in and Michael Buffer read ....115-113 Pacquiao HMMM that's to close i though , THEN 115-113 Bradley , that's when i thought the ROBBERY was on. There is no way Bradley won 7 rounds in this fight especially by the way he started it. THEN IT HAPPENED.....115-113 to the winner AND NEW.

Bradley won the fight but i think you will see below that the vast majority of boxing press and fans scored this fight very convincingly for Pacquiao. NOW CHECK THESE STATS OUT along with my scorecard and all the press and fans scores below...

TOTAL SCORES COLLECTED.....265
TOTAL SCORES FOR PACMAN...248
TOTAL SCORES FRO BRADLEY..10
TOTAL SCORES FOR DRAW.........7

TOTAL PRESS SCORES....47-1 In favour or Manny Pacquiao

Fightscorecollectors Scorecard

Round 1.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 2.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 3.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 4.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 5.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 6.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 7.... 9-10 Bradley
Round 8.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 9.... 10-9 Pacquiao
Round 10.. 9-10 Bradley
Round 11.. 9-10 Bradley
Round 12.. 9-10 Bradley

TOTAL: 116-112 MANNY PACQUIAO

Judges Scores: Jerry Roth : 115-113 Pacquiao
Duane Ford: 113-115 Bradley
C.J Ross : 113-115 Bradley

TIMOTHY BRADLEY WINS BY SPLIT DECISION


Boxing Press , Fan Forum and Boxing Sites Scores

Wayne McCulloch (Primetime) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Dougie Fischer (Ring Mag) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Fighters Rated.com - 117-111 Pacquiao

Herold Lederman (HBO) - 119-109 Pacquiao

Michael Woods (Thesweetscience) - 119-109 Pacquiao

Leave It In The Ring Boxing Radio - 117-111 Pacquiao

ProBoxing-Fans Jake - 117-111 Pacquiao

*****.net - 118-110 Pacquiao

BoxingSocialist - 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Kim (Maxboxing) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Dan Rafael (ESPN) - 119-109 Pacquiao

Scott Christ (BadLeftHook) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Kevin Iole (Yahoo) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Michael Rosenthal (Ring Mag) - 118-111 Pacquiao

Jake Donovan (***********) - 115-113 Pacquiao

Skip Bayliss (ESPN) - 119-109 Pacquiao

Joel Sebastionelli (LIITR Box Radio) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Danny Flexen ( Boxing News) - 115-113 BRADLEY

Michael Nelson (Cruelest Sport) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Tom Gray (secondsout.com) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Denzil Stome (Onthebeak.com) - 118-110 Pacquiao

Terry Dooley (***********) - 115-113 Pacquiao

Paddy Cronan (Onthegrindboxingradio ) - 118-110 Pacquiao

Suge Green (Onthegrindboxingradio) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Steve Zemach (QueensburyRules.com) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Gabriel Montoya (Maxboxing) - 118-110 Pacquiao

Ryan Burton (Theboxinglab Radio) - 117-112 Pacquiao

Ricky Hatton (Primetime) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Associated Press - 117-111 Pacquiao

Orlando Sentinel - 117-111 Pacquiao

Ben Thompson (Fighthype) 116-112 Pacquiao

NY Daily News - 116-112 Pacquiao

LA Times - 117-111 Pacquiao

Daily Buletin (Robert Morales) - 116-112 Pacquiao

Ron Borges - 117-111 Pacquiao

Michael Marley - 119-109 Pacquiao

Kieran Mulvaney (ESPN) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Steve Lillis (Boxnation) - 118-111 Pacquiao

Nigel Collins (ESPN) - 118-110 Pacquiao

No Holds Barred.com - 117-111 Pacquiao

Tommy Gunn (Boxing Asylum) - 117-111 Pacquiao

Steve Bunce (Boxnation/primetime) 116-112 Pacquiao

P4P.com (Brett Newton) - 118-110 Pacquiao

Ron Lewis - 117-111 Pacquiao

Gareth A Davies - 117-111 Pacquiao

Mike Coppinger - 118-110 Pacquiao

Rob Day (Ringnews24) - 117-112 Pacquiao

Saddo Boxing Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 117-111 x6 , 119-109 x3 , 116-112 x2 , 118-110 x2
115-113
(all for Bradley) *115-113 x4* , *115-114*

BoxingAsylum Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 118-110 x4 , 115-113 x3 , 117-111 x2 , 116-112 ,
120-108 **114-114**

Livefight Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x5 , 115-113 x5 , 118-110 x2 , 117-111 , **114-114**

Fighthype Forum - (all fo Pacquiao) 117-111 x3 , 116-112 x2 , 115-113 , 118-110
( for Bradley)* 115-113 x2 *

Fightjudge Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 115-113 x6 , 118-110 x2 , 116-112 x2 , 117-111 x4

Ringnews24 Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x4 ,117-111 x3 ,117-112 x2 , 115-113, **115-115**

Doghouseboxing Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x4 , 118-110 , 115-113 , **114-114**
( for Bradley) *117-111*

Thesweetscience Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 118-110 x2 , 116-112

Boxrec Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x9 , 115-113 x7 , 118-110 x6 , 119-109 x5 , 118-112
117-112 , 115-114 , 117-111

Eastsideboxing Forum (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x15 , 117-111 x12 , 115-113 x15 , 119-109 x2 ,
116-113 , 118-110 x2 , 120-108 , 115-114 , **114-114**x4
(all for Bradley) *116-113* , *115-113*

*********** Forum - (all for Pacquiao) 116-112 x11 , 117-111 x9 , 118-110 x7 , 119-109 x3
115-113 x3 , 117-112 , **114-114** x3



End Thread. Thanks.

 

Ive gotta say ive been a sucker for biased commentary before and changed my mind after a 2nd viewing.

But not this time. Infact the 2nd time i watched it i noticed just how much of Bradleys work landed on gloves and arms. Surely if your guna call work rate its gotta be work that counts, no point being the fastest Whopper burger cook if your working for KFC.