What's the point in getting to top level boxing if you won't push yourself to be the best. He didn't even throw against Alexander.
He didn't beat Kotelnik. Most of his punches in the fight were arm punches and a lot landed on Kotelniks shoulders. Kotelnik beat him. And has been taught actual defense. He's lucky the guys at 147 are limited right now except three or four fighters. So he can do well no doubt. I just hope Hatton revives his career, fights him and knocks him out.
Very good post. Maidana looks crude compared to most top level fighters in the game, but anyone who reaches the world level of the sport in their division, even if that division is deemed to be weak, has to be doing something right. Maidana's use of angles is pretty damn good, his ability to mix it up to body and head, his knack for applying pressure to disrupt his opponent both through offence and through body language. Pretty underrated handspeed as well, especially considering the mustard he puts on pretty much every shot. Watch the Kotelnik fight to see his best stuff. By the way, what's with all this nonsense about Maidana finally learning how to throw a jab? He always had a jab; he just didn't use it to his best advantage. From the way people talk it sounds like they think he never even had the concept of a jab in his brain before now.
You clearly have a bee in your bonnet about Maidana. Therefore nothing you write is going to be without heavy bias.
I just don't think Maidana deserves the hype he was getting after the Karass fight. In the Kotelnik fight if you watch closely you will see a lot of Maidanas punches were landing on Kotelniks arms and shoulders at times. Maidana put in a decent performance but he was not landing as much as it was led to believe. He did not use much defense, but Kotelnik did use defense. Maidana swang his arms around beautifully, but he was not landing as much as you thought. It's why Kotelnik got the nod, and he deserved the nod, too. This content is protected As you see his jab connect average was not so good. He threw his arms around beautifully but most of the time they didn't connect. You can't always go by this as it's not always accurate cos compubox score arm punches. In the old days they didn't count. And you cannot count them. You can throw 1000s of punches but it makes no difference. You see if 70 percent of ppl thought throwing an O.T.T amount of punches in the fight you could say it's home cooking. It doesn't mean he was actually landing most, or if not all of them. You can't just look for the power shot all the time to win you a fight. You could say now because he threw more and perhaps landed more at a lower percentage he was actually landing the 100s of punches he missed which landed on the arms, gloves and shoulders of Kotelnik.
I never said he's suddenly taking over the division. But has he improved? Yes, he has. It probably won't take him too far but still, he is always fun to watch and always has a puncher's chance. It's just nice to see him working hard and winning so far, that's all. If that makes me a nuthugger then you're just an obnoxious *****. I give him enough credit so that he can be called a decent fighter. Not great but decent. I think that's normal.
Interesting stuff. Do you have a similar breakdown of the Morales fight as well? Regarding Maidana vs Kotelnik, whilst very few clean shots got through on Kotelnik's chin, it's disingenuous to say that the majority were just hitting gloves and shoulders. Maidana was going to Kotelnik's head and body with the viciousness, and his shots were moving Kotelnik all over the place, not to mention his massively greater workrate over the course of the fight. He was successfully blocking or rolling with a lot of Kotelnik's stuff as well, though Kotelnik landed the cleaner shots. To dismiss Maidana's work, even when a lot of it was (partially) blocked can give you a skewed impression of the fight. Shots which are partially blocked but still rocking you and putting you on the backfoot, cannot count for nothing, especially when they're thrown in such overwhelming quantities. Anyway, even if you disagree, to get a split decision with a defensive technician like Kotelnik in Germany shows he's clearly not as **** as you want people to think.
gyll Undetectable = Absolutely! ? I say if Maidana was taught basic defense and better punch placement/accuracy he would be more than a limited slugger/brawler type. If he throws more jabs, and balances his overall game he could be a lot better. I personally don't think he can learn them qualities now. He can be more accurate, but his gun hoe mentality will make him lose fights he could possibly win. Which all he needs to learn. Overall. I think he can match up well with the Mike Joneses, Carson Joneses, Kell Brooks, Soto Karasses of this world. Anyone decent he gets beat. Which is a shame i guess, as he actually wants to win big fights but doesn't try at times. Look at the Alexander fight. Maidana was tailor made for him, but he didn't even try to win. It's as if whenever i watch him fight he suddenly switches off. Similar to Chavez Jr but not as bad. He's far from a bum, or a **** fighter, but he is a limited brawler/slugger. I guess he's fun to watch, and so is Amir Khan. Which is always good, but i see at times a boxer who could possibly beat a decent opponent but he switches off. You cannot rely on one type of punch to win you a fight against an A type of boxer. You can be a natural fighter, but it doesn't actually mean you can be a good boxer with them qualities. There's more to boxing than one punch, and even though it can be a defining factor in a fight a lot, if not most of the time. I personally do not think he is good enough to always rely on his power punch as he eats shots. He can do it against lower competition, and he may even snatch a SD from doing so. But he cannot get away with that against Tim Bradley, or a Manny Pacquiao.
But Maidana doesn't throw just one kind of punch, he throws the kitchen sink. Yes he does switch off at times, which is frustrating, but when he's on his game he's an extremely dangerous fighter for almost anyone. His style is extremely unorthodox and cavemanish looking, but he's not nearly as crude or skilless as all that.
You can count workrate, but you also have to take in percentage. Effective aggression can sway the judges. The reason i gave him the nod in a close fight is because of his defense. Maidana was throwing punches for the sake of it, with no accuracy, no timing. Wild arm swinging punches which were meant to be punches from angles, but he doesn't throw them properly like a Manny Pacquiao, due to his movement and footwork. It's not just that but you got to take in the judges opinions. As theyre closer to the ring. And can see underneath the fighters arms. You could say we have a better view on the fight with the classic overhead view. I think we get swayed by a lot of punches thrown. I see a lot more modern day boxers now landing a lot of the punches on the forearms and arms of the opponent. Which many think are scored.
I honestly thought he could have won the Khan fight easily from the mid rounds on. If he controlled himself. It was a big fight occasion for both but i felt perhaps his composure and his intent on knocking Khan out late on in the fight was a last gasp attempt. He could have kept control but left the fight go early. If he used to defense, instead of constant swarming pressure he would have possibly won the fight. He could have timed Khan and knocked him out. So what does that say about Khan? I do hope Hatton can get in the mix with Maidana. If he has anything left. I think that fight would be a treat. If Hatton has anything left. At the end of the day i feel Maidana relies too much on his power punch rather than actually exerting himself properly into a fight. I don't know what his mentality is going into fights, but i sense he tends to rely on wild swinging power punches which aren't very accurate. It's as if he's hoping for luck they will land without any thought of timing, placement, and accuracy going into it. I think he can fool the observer into thinking he throws a wide variety of punches. But he's actually throwing wild looping punches most of the time. He doesn't throw many jabs. Throwing hooks with 2 uppercuts in every 5 rounds just doesn't cut it. He can look for that powerful uppercut to the body/head but throws and misses a lot of the time. He then breaths hard and lands after a 1 minute of not landing a single accurate punch. When he fought Kotelnik he actually looked faster than usual due to the style. When he fought someone who likes to use footwork and speed he sort of let himself down with his defense. A good boxer can win a fight going backwards. He can just counter punch and be patient with himself into a fight. I think Maidana can rely on his power to control a fight with an opponent who has seen better days, or someone who is not on his level.
WTF is this kid talking about? What hype is Maidana getting? Maidana showed improvements. He is learning things that perhaps he should know by know but the point of the matchmaking is to put him in with decent opposition so he can practice and hone his new skills.
After he knocked out Karass, who got stopped two fights previously against Rosado. He then was praised to have honed new skills. As if he was a world beater. Showtime bias. Karass was an easy fight. I honestly see nothing new from this little man. Karass was done.