People are so stupid.... Kessler vs Dawson

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PugilisticPower, Nov 13, 2008.


  1. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    I think Chad is getting the same level of hype that Jeff Lacy got....

    Hell, even their careers are remarkably similar.

    - Both beat fading older legends at their weight (Tarver and Reid)

    - Both struggled with journeymen at their weight (Sheika and Johnson)

    - Both earnt the belt early against well known, well tested but beatable fighters (Adamek and Vanderpool)

    There is a perception that Chad is super fast and super strong but realistically, that was built on the back of Adamek, who was never the most smooth of fighters and had just come out of wars with Briggs.

    People are now saying "Well, Calzaghe beat Kessler with speed and pressure therefore that's Chad's Style, he'll beat Kessler too"

    Well, firstly, lets forget the quality of what Calzaghe does vs other fighters and why he's remained unbeaten when he looks so beatable.

    Calzaghe didn't beat Kessler with work rate, speed and pressure. He beat Kessler with his jab and broke him down round after round with combinations to the body.

    He also exhibited a very iron jaw to take those uppercuts and a few other shots during the fight.

    Chad has a shakey jaw and for all the talk about his jab, where was it against Johnson? For all the talk of his stamina, where was it against Johnson? Johnson was the only guy who fought him for 12 rounds, the other guys he beat don't really tell a story.

    I don't know who wins in Kessler vs Dawson but I do know that Dawson is probably not the fighter people make out and the whole unknown factor of him makes him not worth fighting

    Risk vs Reward.. however, Kessler/Palle are stupid... because Risk/Reward is an effective argument for Calzaghe here but not Kessler... Kessler needs to reprove himself, especially to the American market, easiest way to do that? Fight Dawson. Dawson just got named on a Joe Calzaghe after match interview as "The only guy left to beat" - Kessler could prove a point.
     
  2. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    dawson can **** better boxing then Lacy :yep

    End of Thread.
     
  3. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Chad is the man, Lacy isnt thats the big difference.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    THe only thing similar between CHad and Jeff is the "HYPE". The difference is Jeff never did anything to deserve the Hype he gained. Most of which came from being an olympian. But Shieka and Reid are no where near the level of Tarver or Johnson. The Wins Chad has mean much, much more than any win Jeff has accomplished thus far.

    Chad's hype was built on what he's shown in the ring. Adamek is a VERY good fighter. Not the best but very good and he dominated Adamek...Chad DOMINATED Tarver and he faught a closely contested 12 rounds with Johnson.

    Jeff.....he lost to Joe...Beating Sheika or Ried means about nothing at this point of their careers and I never bought in to the Lacy Hype. I knew Joe would dismantle Jeff when they faught and he did just that.

    For christ sake...the level of talen, style and careers are vastly different in comparing Jeff to Chad. Joe C's toughest test without a doubt at LHW is Chad Dawson...and vise versa....Bhop is a close 2nd in terms of difficulty for either man.
     
  5. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    that wold also be another way to get the calzaghe rematch he so
    desperately wants.
     
  6. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Glen Johnson is a journeymen LOL!

    You Calslappy fanboys are the worst.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wish Kessler felt the same, and was as confidnent that he is a pure hypejob - because we would get to see Kessler V Dawson. Sadly Kessler sees Dawson as a risk.
     
  8. younghov2k4

    younghov2k4 R.I.P. Thunder, Viper Full Member

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    1st of all, there is no comparison between Dawson now and Lacy at any point of his career. any real boxing fan knows this.

    2nd, there is a reason why Kellerman brought up Dawsons name to Calzaghe after he beat Jones. these people know where the real matchups are, just like when they brought up Cottos name to Mayweather after his last fight.


    Dawson will be competitive against Calzaghe and def has the ability to beat him. thats why this fight should happen.
     
  9. VIP

    VIP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who cares. Let's just get the fight on and see what happens? Dawson has already beat 2 champions at his weight and is the one who is willing to fight the other top dogs. So why not? He is clearly the #1 contender at 175.

    Oh and Dawson is no Lacy and did not (and won't because of his style) get the level of hype Lacy did.
     
  10. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    If you really think Dawson is a 'Lacy' type you need your head examined. You're comparing Tarver to Reid? Sheika to Johnson? Adamek to Vanderpool? You must be kidding.. And you say Calzaghe didn't beat Kessler with workrate, speed, and pressure?? He did. Obviously. Have you seen the fight?
     
  11. VIP

    VIP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Who else is there for Calzaghe to fight? The boxing fans know this is the fight to be made if Calzaghe is to continue. Personally, I think Calzaghe beats him but we never know until the fight actually happens. Dawson is a young champion willing to take on the others, so why not?
     
  12. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Is this a ****ing joke? Did you just seriously compare Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson and Tomasz Adamez to Robin Reid, Omar Sheika and Syd Vanderpool? You need to have your head examined.
     
  13. Bodysnatcher

    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  14. Ring Master

    Ring Master The Originator Full Member

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    Wow, Lacy and Dawson are nothing alike. The comparisions in this post are just ignorant.
     
  15. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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