People BAG on Wilders opponents BUT AJ/Hearn wont fight him? Hmm...

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  1. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Lets speak factz here

    And Ortiz iz a top 5 heavyweight

    How you gonna blame Wilder when AJ/Hearn won't make the bout?

    Matter of fact they already have Big Baby Miller lined up for AJ nxt bout...

    He would have had PEDvetkin on his scalp if he didn't **** hot...
     
  2. sean

    sean pale peice of pig`s ear Full Member

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    fans want to see joshua v wilder if they both win.

    hearn might say he wants it but he knows he could have joshua face jabba the hut and it will sell out without the risk of wilder


    not much more wilder can do /he is self promoting well/ fighting a risky opponent and brings legit danger of winning v joshua..

    what at the moment he does not bring is any EXTRA money that hearn cannot get fighting any other opponent.
     
  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    Im glad Hearn wont fight him as he isnt a Boxer.
     
  4. Tyson Fury Goat

    Tyson Fury Goat Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    maybe because wilder wants 50-50
     
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  5. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hearn tells Wilder to raise his profile but not Baby Miller.

    AJ is running from Wilder.
     
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  6. lucky luke

    lucky luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd fight AJ for a 50/50 split. Is he ducking me?
     
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  7. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When Wilder asks for 50-50, then Aj/Hearns would be stupid to accept that for Wilder.

    If you are going to try to speak FATZ, don't omit stuff that shoots down your theory.
     
  8. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You think Miller will ask for 50-50? Of course not.
     
  9. El Chicano

    El Chicano Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Hearnz don't want it

    His cash cow will get PASTED
     
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  10. Lazar

    Lazar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then why isn’t Hearn sending an actual counter offer? Get the ball rolling. No, he doesn’t want to because Wilder is dangerous and unpredictable.
     
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  11. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This is an incredible time for heavyweights, and the future looks great too.

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    Oritiz is a southpaw, he is quick, he punches hard, he has excellent fundamentals, and he is an inch taller and 20 pounds heavier than "prime" Goerge Foreman. Ortiz has dominated in all of his pro fights. A dangerous 6-4, 240 pound former amateur star who is a southpaw...he is lucky to come along in this era, in most of the past, he wouldn't be able to get fights.

    Ortiz would be a monster in most eras, but today there are others...Joshus, 6-6, 245, huge, well conditioned Olympic champion, Povetkin, 6-2, 230 pounds and an excellent fighter with great skills and an Olympic champion, Wilder, 6-7, 220, tremendous athlete who medaled at the Olympics with little experience but at 32, with a good trainer, is showing improvement every fight, Parker, 6-4, 235 pounds, fast, good amateur background, looks good, Tyson Fury, 6-9, 260, with a relaxed, natural style in the ring, not an oaf, a guy who would be good even if he wasn't huge. And there are others behind them who might be better...

    The other Fury, young but has already given Parker a tough fight. He will just get better, Jarrell Miller, 6-4, and has fought at close to 300 pounds. Going to be tough for anybody because of his strength and he is a decent boxer. Bryant Jennings is another one who can make it tough for most. And then there are the young amateur heavyweights who have recently turned pro, lots of big athletic fighters with excellent amateur credentials. And then the Cruiserweights who might stop taking the water out of their body the day before a fight and who might fight as 215-225 pound heavyweight. Usyk, Gassiev, and others would be a test for anybody. They are big men too and they too have excellent amateur pedigrees...

    IMO, the biggest, strongest, most athletic group of heavyweights in history is active now, and most have excellent amateur credentials. I have no idea who will win between Ortiz and Wilder, but if Wilder gets beaten, it's no disgrace to lose to a 6-4, 240 pound southpaw with the experience and skills Ortiz has. If Wilder wins, he will have beaten arguably the most dangerous contender ever.
     
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  12. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Miller has no belt. You cannot expect Joshua to fight on U.S soil and make a huge fight if Wilder himself is not drastically known so then Joshua has to sell the fight on his end too.

    And the way to do that is one fight where Wilder fights at. You then make a Vegas fight in the second fight after they fight at Wembley.....
     
  13. Gymbot

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    The art of negotiation. Miller is being used to bring Wilder to the table. So far he’s done all his talking in the media. Why isn’t his management contacting Hearn? Where is the offer to Joshua from Wilder’s camp? So far Wilder has stated he wants 50/50 yet expects Hearn to do all the running. Bunch of amateurs.

    Joshua isn’t ducking Wilder. He hasn’t had time to duck him.
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Wilder already did that on his way up
     
  15. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    OP needs to learn the search function as he can see every angle of this tired old topic..

    Bottom line fight ain't happening at 50/50...