People criticize this era, but in time to come the top 4 of 00-10 will be legends.

Very good post but even though Hopkins and Mayweather are great fighters,the four fighters i will always remember from this era are the Fab Four II.

Pac
Barrera
Morales
JMM.

 

Definitely.

Nostalgia is a real ***** at times. I just think the state of the HW division gives people an excuse to criticise this generation of boxers.

 

No matter what Mayweather goes on to do this year, Manny Pacquaio is the figher of the noughties for me.

 

In the future even your best mate Calzaghe will be more respected. :hey

PS, check your PMs Pacfan.

 

an ATG list that has only sweet pea and chavez in their top 30 list is bias towards this era...

 

you dont think marquez's fights against pacman was greater than tito beating vargas?

marquez's 'curse' is only missing out on those close decisions, apart from that he's still one of the most gifted fighters of this era who was very poorly managed for a long time and suffered because of it.

and why should you mention hopkins - pavlik and leave out marquez - casamayor?

 

Who criticizes this era? No one really. The only thing people criticize about this era is the Heavyweight division . . . and rightfully so.

 

the espn list includes only chavez in their top 38..most of the 90s greats where in the 39-50 spot

and how about the bert sugar list..jones at 88th, pernell at 48th and hopkins at 91st

 

spot on.

 

Middleweight is the worst. Totally no skill there.. Pav&Abraham even these two top dogs are medicre if even that

 

Lest you forget Paul Williams also fights at Middleweight - amongst the many divisions he fights at - which brings skill in abundance to the table. I'm not gonna go so far as to say those other two chaps have no skill, they're just a lil' one dimensional.

 

pac and Jr could become all-time-greats....if pac beats jr he would be top 20 ALL TIME in my view. I dont know why hopkins is there....he certainly overated it seems

 

your dreaming here, right??