People don't generally believe Ward could beat a prime Calzaghe do they?

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    And Ward wasn't worried about going to Canada to fight Bute because he flat out refused to do so on the grounds that it wasn't neutral. In order for the fight to take place it had to happen on ''neutral' ground. And Ward's definition of neutral meant in the USA. :patsch


    But that didn't matter given that Bute had agreed to go to Oakland for the fight.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    BTW, Happy new year, Loudon. :good
     
  3. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not only would he beat him, if he retired tomorrow he would have a better record.
     
  4. Moanamchara

    Moanamchara Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward could of went on to PROVE he is the better fighter but didn't. As for the Ward nut huggers they usually say Frochs a bum but he is Wards best win. Face it if Wards best win is a bum who his too slow and has no skill like most of Ward fans seem to spew than Ward himself is a bum...
     
  5. elmaldito

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    An old Hopkins beat calzaghie as easy as Lara beat canelo.
    Yes, ward schools him to.
     
  6. elmaldito

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    An old Hopkins beat calzaghie as easy as Lara beat canelo.
    Yes, ward schools him to.
     
  7. eagleskins

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    Are there some idiots saying Ward has faster hands than Joe? Joe at 48 would have faster hands than Ward anytime in his career. I know Ward is a third black, but the ignorance is intolerable
     
  8. Imperial1

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    :lol:


    He already proved he was on his level ..
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Ok hold up how are you blaming Ward for Andre Dirrell pulling out the S6 if you knew anything prior to the tournament both men said they wanted to fight each other that was a huge motivating factor for Ward ..Yet you want to blame him for Dirrell pulling out :patsch

    And with regards to. Bute he was 100 % right ! Bute had not fought one elite level boxer ,he milked his title for several yrs fighting stiff after stiff no wonder Joe Calzaghe was his hero they both acted in the same manner ! The minute Bute stepped up look what happened !

    Yet Ward ducked him when had already beat better fighters :lol: that's a good one !

    As far as Stevenson I really don't care about that since Ward isn't a light heavy and Stevenson is no one to be talking with the way he pulled out the Kovalev fight ..

    And Calzaghe has never been in with a fighter in their prime as good as Ward ..All that quickness and adaptability looks great against guys who can't test his ring IQ Ward would have would have .Would he have beat him who knows but he he had a hell of shot ..So don't talk about who should be on anyone's nuts while defending Joe who waisted his best yrs feasting on journey men ..
     
  10. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Calzaghe would beat every Ward's opponents. I don't think Calzaghe would be too much pressure for Ward.
     
  11. Imperial1

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    Than why did he duck Froch when he was his mando ?


    And I would have loved to see him face the Dawson that beat Hopkins..It's easy to say he would win since beat so many mid tier level guys but against top level comp he has some big question marks !
     
  12. Barry Smith

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    :lol:WTF, what is wrong with you people? Ward has faster hands than Calzaghe, just watch both men FFS. Calzaghe throws more, but Ward is faster. How the hell does your brain compute information? I guess Calzaghe had quicker hands than Roy Jones too:lol:
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Who has faster punches I have to go with Ward faster slaps Joe :rofl
     
  14. AnotherFan

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    Had Bute defeated Froch then for sure, Ward would have nowhere else to go. I think the venue is a big issue for Ward, but it's possible they could have agreed on some neutral location. Ward actually managed to drag Dawson down in weight and too his hometown, which I think was made easiser thanks to Dawsons lack of loyal fans. Fighters without a fallowing are a lot easier to push around.

    Ward may be weary about seemingly slick and fast fighters, but thats merely speculation on my part. After Froch had stomped Bute into the ground Ward could be certain Bute was beatable, but like you say, the fight had become pointless.

    Nothing seems to suggest it as for now.

    They are friends and supported each other during The Super Six Tournament. Their mutual duck is documented on one of the Fight Camp episodes, who probably flout around on the Internet somewhere. For whatever reason, Ward and Dirrell didn't felt they needed to fight each other even though they had agreed to it by terms of the contract with Showtime. Among fans this was a highly anticipated match up. Everyone could tell Ward carried potential, but could he keep up with the speed monster Dirrell? Compare Dirrell vs Abraham and Ward vs Abraham. Dirrell is a A LOT faster.

    But naw, Ward and Dirrell couldn't be bothered. And when Showtime put the heat on them Dirrell pulled out of the tournament. And Ward has kept acting funny ever since :mad:
     
  15. AnotherFan

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    Andre Dirrell didn't pull out until Showtimes lawyer contacted his camp, asking questions why they were not making preparations to fight Andre Ward. At the same time, Wards camp were contacted for the very same reason. Ward wasn't training and wasn't lifting a finger to arrange the fight with Dirrell. Both fighters acted like the fight wasn't expected to happen even though it was schedueled, and Showtime wanted to know what the hell they thought they were doing.

    No mather how you slice and dice it, Ward was into the mutual duck.

    Excuses. Bute was an undefeated title holder who looked good winning and the most relevant opponent available to Ward.

    Nobody knew Froch and Kessler were better than Bute until Froch stomped on him.

    Excuses.

    I absolutely agree Ward would have a chance against Calzaghe. I don't consider the man unbeatable, just very hard to beat. It's just that Calzaghe is a different animal from the opponents Ward beat, so they cant be used as a measure stick. I also don't feel Ward beat Kessler fair and square, even though he probably could have. You can't be headbutting your opponent like that in boxing. If everone did that, the sport would need to be remade.