People don't generally believe Ward could beat a prime Calzaghe do they?

Heres an old post, but it still holds up

Still nobody can counter this

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Calzaghe beat 3 undefeated fighters who had or went on to claim a SMW title.

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1. Someone tell me which top undefeated fighters Ward has beaten?
2. Tell me which top undefeated world champs Ward has fought?


Lets read the answers
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Andre Ward............VS.............Joe Calzaghe
Froch.....................................Kessler

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(Kessler beat Froch)
Kessler...................................Eubank

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Dawson..................................Lacy (Lacy a proven SMW and winner of 5 SMW title fights. Dawson no pedigree at all at SMW)

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Abraham.................................Mitchell (Mitchell a 2 time SMW champ who had never been clearly beaten, only lost by debateable SD in Germany to Ottke, had KOd long time SMW champ Liles, beaten a future SMW champ twice, compared to AA who had done nothing at SMW)

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Bika.......................................Brewer (Bikas best win became Manfredo, Brewer had beaten H Graham and was a SMW champ)

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(Bika was a Calzaghe left over at that time and had been out of the ring bar less than a round for a while)
Green.....................................Woodhall (Woodhall a SMW champ, who had beaten a reigning SMW champ, a world rated former champ, a future SMW champ and Branco a world rated SMW who became WBA LHW champ, who at SMW beat R Reid and G Johnson who when old and shot KOd Green)

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Miranda...................................Bika (Bika now a top 5 SMW had drawn with 3 time SMW champ Beyer)

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Buchanan (?????)......................Sheika

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(Sheika was coming off a win over G Johnson and was a top 10 SMW at the time)
Camou (?????)..........................Veit (Veit a SMW title holder who had a fair resume, better than at least 2 of the current top 5 SMWs)

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Then include the

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win and then the other top 10 SMWs and its clear Calzaghe is well ahead. I could have put

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ahead of Green, Camou, Miranda, Buchanon

Very clear but nobody will have a sensible answer to say otherwise, it will just be a lame Faileys losing it answer when they cant debate against

Somebody tell me how Ward has done more than that.



Nobody can counter the above or answer the questions. In fact they hide from the questions

 

21 SMW title defences WBO IBF WBC WBA SMW titles,
- Kessler (WBC WBA undefeated champ) undefeated and not suffering double vision
- Lacy (IBF undefeated champ) Americas next big thing and mini Tyson
- Eubank one of the greatest SMWs ever and beaten at the same age as Kessler when Ward beat him
- Mitchell 2 time WBA SMW champ and only ever beaten clearly at SMW by Calzaghe, many felt Mitchell had beaten Ottke
- Reid who many felt beat Ottke, beat undefeated Magee who became WBA champ
- Woodhall who fought Beyer to a close decision, beat future WBC SMW champ Catley
- Veit (WBO int champ 45-1 only beaten by Calzaghe) who was only beaten by world champs or fighters who became and has a win over undefeated 27-0 Braehmer (current LHW title holder)
- Brewer former SMW champ
- Bika who nearly beat Ward years later
- Starie who beat undefeated future LHW champ Woods
- Sheika when top 10 and coming off a win over G Johnson
- Mkertchyan who became European SMW champ beating 26-0 world rated Chanet

Thats going to take some beating

- Kessler already beaten by Calzaghe
- Froch who has only won vacant titles, one being one Calzaghe threw away, the other being one a Calzaghe victim threw away and never beaten a top SMW
- Bika beaten clearer by Calzaghe
- Abraham coming off 2 clear S6 losses and done nothing at SMW
- Green beaten by old SMW journeyman Johnson, who when prime lost to Sheika in a box off to face Calzaghe
- Dawson who has no SMW pedigree
- Rodriguez whos best SMW win is?

Anyone who really thinks Wards on par and close to bettering Calzaghe is either very bias or plain stupid.

 

still he brings up all the old lies.

 

How many more times??

You must have asked these questions a hundred times!

Here you are again, playing with the stats, that obviously fall in Joe's favour.

How many top, undefeated fighters had Joe fought at Andre's AGE??

He was 34 when he beat Lacy, and he was 35 when he beat Kessler.


As yet, Andre Ward hasn't beaten any top, undefeated fighters.


Which means what exactly??

 

What's to say he doesn't ?


Beat Kessler with ease as well as Froch who Joe ducked on several occasions ! There isn't anything that says the contrary !


Joe on the other hand only has a razor thin win over Hopkins but it's not like he blew him out the water ..

 

Hahahaha, look at you trying to act like you know a lick of boxing. Slaps, and pitty patty punches don't count for ****, let me give you a little boxing lesson little boy. You obviously don't know **** about boxing, effective punches > quantity slaps. Now let's go through what you learned today, quality > quantity. Now go back to bed, you're just too easy to school little boy.

 

Actually, it is you who have no idea what-so-ever how boxing is scored, and obviously so.

I tried to educate you...some just have learning disabilities I guess.

 

Calzaghe had nothing in his armour that could trouble Ward.

 

Calzaghe is an honorable man. Ward is a headbutting, elbow throwing dirty fighter.

 

Super Fa.g
another boring as.s thread
congrats fu.ck ta.rd

 

FAILEY FAILS AGAIN

most of those "21 defenses" were garbage WBO ones you big simpleton

 

Like yourself? :rofl:rofl Your comebacks are so original, you most likely are autistic, or just a straight up ret@rd.

 

Joe would take Ward to school.

 

Calzaghe landed less than 50 punches. You can count them one by one in each round. It isn't hard.

 

This is gibberish.

At this point I am going to bow out gracefully as I now realize that I am arguing with child. Keep growing and learning. Someday you will be a man.