People don't generally believe Ward could beat a prime Calzaghe do they?

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  1. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    um, currently he ISN'T fighting.

    But let me go ahead and humor you:

    Out of the RING top 10 he hasn't fought:
    Groves
    DeGale
    Steiglitz
    Anthony Dirrell
    Ramirez
    Andre Dirrell: ducked
    JCC Jr.
    Sturm

    Has fought:
    Rated:
    Froch
    Abraham
    Unrated:
    Bika: So did Calzaghe, and CALZAGHE DIDN'T NEED HELP FROM THE REF/JUDGES
    Kessler: So did Calzaghe, and Calzaghe didn't need to have an old, injured, headbutted, clinched opponent.

    Now explain to me how that's better than Calzaghe shredding everyone in his division barring the 3 other titleholders who steadfastly refused to fight him?
     
  2. AnotherFan

    AnotherFan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Andre Ward also ducked Lucian Bute :oops:
     
  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which top undefeated fighter did Ward face.
    He beat (already beaten by Calzaghe) Kessler, who beat Froch, who beat Bute, but Ward didnt once face any when undefeated or prime, or Bute at all
     
  5. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Ward is better than Calzaghe who is a bit overrated!
     
  6. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    So you gotta face undefeated Boxers now to be considered great? That means JMM's resumé sucks d*ck if you discredit his KO win over Manny. In fact nearly all great boxer's resumés suck by that logic. Quit foolin'
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Calzaghe ducked Froch which Ward did not do rather beat him from pillar to post. He also did a much better job on Kessler than Calzaghe. Also Ward has a superior trainer in Virgil Hunter compared to Enzo Calzaghe.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Calzaghe ducked Froch :patsch Get real.

    Froch was a basic nobody back in 2007, had Calzaghe fought and schooled novice Froch that would've been one for your haters 'bums he beat hiding in the UK'

    Calzaghe needed the big money fights to secure his future as his hands were shot, fighting then domestic level Froch would've earned little money, he needed the big Vegas paydays so he schooled Hopkins and Jones. Froch understands this as he is looking to do the same thing himself for his final fights- why can't you grasp it?
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    How do you work that out?
    What top undefeated fighters has Ward beaten?
    What top prime fighters has Ward beaten?
     
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    You trying to call me out?
    Tell me how beating an already exposed fighter is better? Do you think if someone beat Bute after Froch, its as good a win?
     
  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    How do you feel he ducked Froch?
    Froch didnt win a world title until after Calzaghe had retired.
    Froch was an unknown British champ, so Calzaghe have a choice, face unknown British champ, who is not known outside the UK, or top undefeated unified SMW champ Kessler in a bigger fight (who went on when faded and past best to beat Froch). Calzaghe fought Kessler, so hows that ducking.
    Then Calzaghe had the same choice, unknown British champ or LHW champ Hopkins in a bigger fight.

    How is any of that a duck?
    Do explain, though I expect YOU to duck :oops:
     
  12. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    Do you think if someone beat Manny (JMM, Bradley [yeah yeah]) after Morales, it's as good a win? Durrrr. Do you think if someone beat Oscar (Mosley, Bernard, Floyd, Manny) after Tito, it's as good a win? Durrrr [2].

    Cmon cuh
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    We are talking SMW and Ward hasnt beaten Manny (JMM, Bradley [yeah yeah]) after Morales, it's as good a win? Durrrr. Do you think if someone beat Oscar (Mosley, Bernard, Floyd, Manny) after Tito,.
    real durrr :patsch. You are comparing someone who has beaten undefeated prime fighters and a completely different to a fighter that hasnt beaten one top undefeated prime fighter in their division :patsch
     
  14. Alcanelo

    Alcanelo The Spider Full Member

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    Lol what a cop out.
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    froch is better than Kessler, having narrowly lost a hometown decision to uninjured him, and emphatically won the return in his home.. ward has easily beaten froch.