People Fault Hopkin's For The Jones Loss...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Russell, Aug 15, 2008.


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  1. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    Exactly. I have absolutely no problem with Hagler ranking higher, I just tend to lean towards Hopkins.
     
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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    e=the cobra]I know very well that Hamsho, Sibson, Roldan, and the majority of Hagler's middleweight opposition were superior to the likes of Eastman, Joppy, David-Jackson (but their not on different levels), and I can see why this would make you rank Hagler higher.
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    Wait, Hamsho's beyond John David Jackson why?

    The JDJ that was unbeaten for a decade and avoided by nearly everyone?
     
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  3. Sweet Pea

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    Jackson was old when Hopkins got to him, whereas Hagler beat Hamsho on multiple occasions.
     
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  4. the cobra

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    Yeah, Jackson retired after one or two fights following the knock out loss to Hopkins. Hamsho at his best was superior to this version of JDJ.
     
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  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hamsho was the far easier fighter to fight as well. One of the crudest fighters you'll ever seen.

    Guess it depends on if you want ultra slick with skills and chin problems or crude with a great chin when measuring fighters.
     
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  6. the cobra

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    The majority of JDJ's slickness and skills had been diminished by the time B-Hop fought him. He was still far more polished fighter than Hamsho, but his chin was far more exposed by this time and he had slowed down.
     
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  7. Sweet Pea

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    Hamsho was definitely the more effective fighter by the time they were fought.
     
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