People had hopes for Nogueira because..

I don't think that he's shot. That doesn't mean that he is in his prime... but he is not shot.

 

his shot no doubt about it

 

Shot is way too overused. Shot fighters don't put on the sort of performance that Nog did over Couture. Even if NEITHER of them are at their best, which they aren't. Passed prime... yes... shot? Hell no, neither of them are shot fighters.

 

Bit harsh on Nog, who knows if he is shot because Velasquez is just too good regardless.

 

I said Nog was shot in the Mir fight and nothing has changed since. It's appropriate to call him shot because he talks slower, walks slower and fights like a shot fighter. In all of his UFC bouts, he has taken heavy punishment, there has been no dominating performance except for maybe Couture, but that is not saying much since Couture is a light heavy. Bottom line, your bound to be shot considering how much damage the guy has taken over his career.

 

Very well put and I totally agree.

 

He needs to retire.

 

Well said.

After the Herring fight I was telling people his done. Seeing him struggle badly to beat Herring and then get ouclassed v Sylvia told you all you need to know.

The guy's knees are shot, his body is broken down. Remember that legendy fight v Sapp where he was tossed about like a doll. That was in 2002. Thats 8 years ago and since then his aged very very quickly.

 

The Couture fight flattered him. Couture is slow. Nog had the height, reach and power on him but they are slow and their punch resistance gone.

Nog told everyone he was ill for the Mir fight and it does make you wonder. When you put the Sylvia and Mir fights together along with a flattering performance against Couture and a destruction against Cain then you can see he is past his best.

If the UFC want to keep him fighting then they would be wise to put him in winnable fights like they have Couture.

 

I wouldnt say hes totally shot but one of Nogueira's greatest attributes if you call it that is gone and thats his punch resistance hes been dropped in nearly every fight hes had starting with the 1st Barnett fight and nearly KTFO by Herring and was KTFO by Cain and Mir. Only so many shots a man can take standing and on the ground. Just like a nice car you have but you can only make 100 mile daily trips so often before it has 200,000 miles on it and its been ran into the ground.

 

If Nog isn't shot noone is. The only guys more shot are guys like Kerr and Coleman who are in their 40's and absolutely dog**** shot. HIs reflexes have gone, his punch resistance is non-existant, his toughness and durability which was a big part of his game, is gone. I was optimistic at one point for him and claimed he wasn't totally shot (After the Mir fight), but watching objectively he's clearly running on fumes.

 

I see so many people going he is only 33. That has to be the dumbest thing to say in sports, let alone combat sports. Nog has a ring age of at least 44.

 

Tbh, when Nog fought Nastula, at what i believe was a career heavy weight for him, you could see that he was'nt the same.

 

This seems to be common with the newbs on Shitdog.

They don't seem to understand the difference between actual age and fighting age.

There's noone in the sport older than Big Nog.

The mans a fossil but I must admit that I was slightly fooled by the Randy fight. atsch