People need more lessons at chin school

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  1. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although Khan is fast, his speed doesnt last that long.
    Will he be able to fight at that pace that Ghost did?

    Either Ghosts fists are made of pillows, or that Japanese guys chin is granite.

    Ghost seems smart and solid enough to exploit Khans weaknesses, we shall see.

    But it will be a huge test for Khan, not so much the other way round.

    Ghost isnt special in anyway, but he has a good all round toolset
     
  2. Staminakills

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    ghost isn't really special but the dude is a true warrior with decent power and heart. that jap had never been hurt in his whole career. ghost has power, not crazy but as much as needed. ghost is a tough out for everyone not names Floyd. I really don't like this fight for khan at all.

    be very very impressed if khan can pull it off.
     
  3. Azzer85

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    Thats what i mean, its a good test vs an all rounder.

    I do think Guererro could outbox Khan.

    This fight is all Guererros IF he does his homework.

    Amir has a tougher problem to solve though.
     
  4. Staminakills

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    completely agree. but if khan wants people to consider him one of the top welters he needs to win. I just don't know if he can beat someone as tough and strong as the ghost.

    some of the shots he landed on the jap will be landing on khan, what's going to happen when they land
     
  5. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Khan gets knocked down by complete feather fisted fighters. Look up the KO rates of the fighters that have put him down. They are awful. That is the Definition of a Glass Jaw. Khan has an awful Chin. Hagler, LaMotta, Chuvalo, Vitali Klitschko, Ali, etc. these are guys that were never KOed. Even when 'tired'. So yes it is possible for a fighter to never be KOed. Iron Chins exist.
     
  6. Staminakills

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    just because they were never ko'd doesn't mean anything close to they being unable to be ko'd. everyone can be ko'd, doesn't mean they were in their careers
     
  7. Azzer85

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    From Ghosts perspective, he needs to patiently wait for Khans speedomoter to drop by round 4, and then start pouring it on.

    Khan, has to box smart, clever and keep away from exchanges. But with a versatile fighter like Guererro thats going to be tough.

    I dont see Khan stopping Ghost (stranger things have happened though).

    Khan is faster than Guererro, thats about it. Everything else favours Ghost.

    You could argue that Ghost is probably the weakest of the top 10.

    With monsters like Thurman, Porter, Pacqiauo, Khans got nowhere to run really.

    Alexander and Ghost are the only two guys Khan could probably beat in the top ten. and maybe Brook.
     
  8. Azzer85

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    Willie Limonds KO% was something like 20% when he fought Khan.
     
  9. Staminakills

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    I really don't know what that's supposed to mean. the most misleading stat in all of sports is ko %.

    almost any pro fighter can land a shot someone doesn't see and hurt them.
    ko% means nothing
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

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    It is a Fact that the fighters I listed were never KOed. So, yes they were impossible to KO and only 2 of the guys I listed were even knocked down.

    Chuvalo, Ali, and LaMotta fought some savage punchers and were never KOed. It isn't like they fought a bunch of stiffs.

    So in conclusion, no everyone can't be KOed. How do we know? Because there is evidence of such.
     
  11. Azzer85

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    But surely you agree, some fighters punch harder than others?

    Limond was never known to be a puncher and he nearly knocked Khan out and that wasnt just one seperate incident.
     
  12. Staminakills

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    you really think certain fighters are unable to sustain concussion ? this is ridiculous, not being ko'd does not somehow equal impossible to ko.

    they are human ya know
     
  13. Staminakills

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    of course fighters punch at different lbs and some have little power.
    the fact is the punch you don't see is the one that has the most affect. I don't give a **** about ko%, its mean less than nothing.

    you get hit on the right spot and it could be trouble. especially if you don't know its coming
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

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    Look at the line of guys Chuvalo and Ali fought. They fought some brutal punchers. Who is going to KO them? If Foreman, Lyle, Shavers, etc could not KO them then who in the hell is going to?

    These are Elite Chins. It is why they are the elite of Chins. They are a Class above Margarito. That doesn't mean Margarito did not have a good Chin it just wasn't Iron. Iron Chinned fighters do not get KOed period.
     
  15. Staminakills

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    IF those guys fought the like of LL and Wlad they certaining could be stopped. stop the nonsense, NO fighter is unstoppable