People on on the wrong track w/ lefties and Floyd!!

Well if Pac and Roach take this approach to floyd just as you have, pac will get soundly beaten !

 

The Original poster ****ysis is very good, but the big mistake he is making is that he's thinking size is the only tool for bullying a fighter, which is not true. pacquiao workrate is what made him the bully against the bigger fighters. Mayweather has had problems with bigger fighters because they were able to put him on the ropes where Mayweather's workrate dropped and they were able to get some big punches off, but in the end Mayweather's boxing intelligence and skills takes over. With Pacquiao though, is that Mayweather might have problems with the workrate because Floyd doesn't throw punches in bunches like he used to, in this fight he'll probably be forced to throw more otherwise he could lose by decision. The big problem for Pacquiao is that he's had problems with counter punchers and the reason why is because he doesn't cut the ring off too well, he chases, so in the end he gets hit with a big shotwhere he over extends with his own punch. It's going to be a great fight because both have weaknesses that the other boxer can expose. It's a very hard fight to predict. I certainly won't be betting on it.

 

Pacquiao's punch output will be lower against Mayweather than he was against other opponents and the reason why is because he's got to get to Mayweather first and then even when he's done that, he's got to actually connect, which is not easy. When you face a slickster, a coaches advice is to always cut the ring down and get that slickster on the ropes, but what makes floyd so special, is that he's also good on the ropes, which now makes the task double as hard.

The problem for mayweather is what happens if Pacquiao does get him on the ropes, because floyd does back on the ropes quite easily now, is that Pacquiao might just outwork him. Pacquiao might not land, but the workrate doesn't allow floyd to throw back as much as he would normally because of fear of leaving himself open if Pacquiao is throwing 2-3 punches for every punch Floyd throws. Floyd biggest advantage is defense, but this could be his biggest weakness for this fight.

 

Overall though, I would make Floyd the favourite. Manny has had problems with counter punchers, and floyd is the best counter puncher. Floyd just has to up his workrate a bit more and this might be the fight where Floyd really shows what he can do. Like I said, we'll have to see what happens. Certainly an intriguing fight.

 

Pacquiao doesn't seem the fighter that gets bothered about getting tagged. Actually, Pacquiao seems to hype himself up when he gets tagged. Floyd has a better recovery rate though. Floyd's legs are going, but his recovery rate has helped him.

 

It's just a very hard fight to predict because it's one of those fights where they both have the strengths that expose their opponents weaknesses. You normally don't get a fight like that. It's now a case of who is able to use their strengths more. It'll probably be Floyd, but If there was one boxer that could expose floyd's weakness, which is workrate, it's Pacquiao. I can't wait. A true great boxing match that will be talked about in decades to come.

 

Has Manny really had problems with counter punchers? He has had problems with one specific counter puncher.

Next to JMM the next best counter puncher he has faced was MAB and he ****ing destroyed MAB.

The point of this thread is that there is a misconception that Floyd has trouble with southpaws when he actually had trouble with one southpaw for 4 rounds. I would actually say the the Floyd has trouble with southpaws is really Floyd has trouble with a good left hand but that is beside the point.

Doesn't the same apply to Pac then? There is a perception that Manny has trouble with counter punchers when the truth is he has had trouble with one counter puncher and his record as a whole shows no trouble with counter punchers.

Clottey thought he had a real chance because Manny has trouble with counter punchers.

Algeri thought he had a real chance because Manny has trouble with counter punchers.

The next time you feel compelled to say Manny has trouble with counter punchers stop and correct yourself. Manny has trouble with Juan Manuel Marquez. That is all his boxing history tells us.

 

I like the way you approached your ****ysis, but here is where I feel you're wrong. The common denominator from the southpaws is that they were able to penentrate Floyd's defense more than expected. Pacquiao is on a different level than all the southpaws you mentioned, and is naturally a very unique phenomenon.

In regards to the fighters you mentioned that have given Floyd more problems... there's more than one way to skin a cat. Big pressure fighters are a lot more common than unorthodox in and out speedsters with solid punch and high activity. Therfore it's understandable Floyd has ran into higher quality pressure fighters than southpaws with similar attributes to Pacquiao.

The main difference is the quality of Pacquiao along with his style. But the same goes for Pacquiao against Floyd. I used to think that I would favor Floyd once this fight got made, but now that it's official I'm leaning towards Pacquiao.