if p4p to has ANYHING to do with talent, skills and in ring ability froch is no where near trip G p4p. I have a feeling you determine ones talent and ability strictly going off ones resume, yes froch has a decent resume IF he beat some of the top fighters he fought instead of getting pummeled embarrassingly by BOTH Andre's. they robbed dirrell so bad because he beat froch really worse than ward. he did hold back a little too much. could've stopped him if he tried a tiny bit more for the stoppage. if they fought again dirrel would tko him in one sided beat down. that was such a pathetic robbery, I reviewed it again 6 months a year ago and I don't even remember one sequence in the fight froch did any damage what so ever. many memories of dirrel pummeling froch all over the ring. how could anyone have froch in a p4p ratings for REAL unless you are giving points for losses. in that case ODH might be the atg p4p #1, sick sick resume but, best win a faded vargas
the last time i discussed lb for lb lists with staminakills, he had crispy ahead of the cobra. i'm not into lists myself, but enough said.
P4P all time, Froch may have a case for still having a better resume. P4P now, Froch being the bigger man ducks GGG. H2H now, Froch being the bigger man ducks GGG whom is able to stop him. H2H prime vs prime, IDK H2H all times, each compared 2 his own division, GGG is far more destructive and even more durable. Froch is past his prime. I also rank Oliver McCall over Wladimir Klitschko p4p and h2h, I just do not rank him higher than Wladimir at 200+ now.
This is the only reason Froch should be rated about GGG. Once GGG starts mowing down elite guys like Froch, people will understand the hardcore following Froch-GGG is one of the 5 biggest fights to be made for me. Two of my favorites.
So is GGG ducking Ward because he said he won't fight him because it's not a PPV fight? Frochs team went to HBO for a US PPV against GGG and they told him it wasn't PPV, So Froch turned to Chaves get your facts straight before you spew nonsense.
Yea I was hoping for it too hopefully next time Froch goes to HBO to see if a GGG fight is PPV it will be and they will give the green light for it to happen!
GGG ducks Andre Ward like Guillermo Jones ducked Vitali Klitschko. So do not use the word nonsense referring to other people anymore.
I don't believe GGG is ducking Ward. I don't believe you can duck someone not in your division. I was stating how the situations are similar yet one is called a duck by GGG fan boys and the other is not. Went right over your head didn't it? The poster I was replying to said Froch is ducking GGG. Froch only wants a PPV fight in America currently. Frochs team goes to HBO to see if a Froch-GGG fight is PPV viable they say NO so the fight doesn't happen. GGG will only move up in weight for a PPV fight. Ward does not bring that so the fight isn't going to happen. It doesn't mean that either fighter is ducking someone but 1 is seen as a duck by the poster I was replying to but the other isn't. I was pointing out the hypocrisy.
Yes according to "stamina" resume means nothing and as long as you look good fighting sub par comp compared to another fighter your better than them. It's ridiculous ...
Froch is by far, more accomplished and I rate him far higher at the moment than GGG, I've caught a lot of flak from GGG fans, because I have the audacity to think Froch and Ward possibly beat him, I don't consider 2 of the P4P best fighters of the last 15 years beating somebody a complete insult to GGG, its just that I recognize their level of greatness. I like GGG a lot but he's not on Froch's level just yet.
name me ONE prime fighter froch beat. I could wait till he has a chance but he aint fighting anyone exept cash out vs Jr who will beat the living sh!t out of this wicked over rated froch
He's got a ways to go but he is a very solid fighter and is looking to be the best at MW. But people should defer judgement on how he does at SMW until he has fought a couple good contenders up at that weight.
Jean Pascal, Andre Dirrell, George Grovesx2 and somewhat Arthur Abraham. There I just gave you 4. And Bute that's 5.