People rate GGG above Froch??

I definitely have GGG over Froch as well but what do you rate the likes of Murray/Geale if you rate Pascal as a C+ fighter? What is a world class fighter in your gradebook.

 

the fight was 11/1 and that was me giving froch the round he landed a couple glancing shots. dirrell totally outclassed him, it was a joke decision.

calling jean a B+ is crazy, that is one level below the best you can get. A fighters are the truly elite fighters, that's how I go about them. B fighters, win titles but cant beat the elites.

C+ are fighters that can win titles and compete on any given day with the B fighters but not the A.

C fighters are still good to very good fighters.
F fighters are journeymen, that I how I go about raking fighters.
there are very few A level elite fighters in the game.
Probably literally around 10, they are the best of the best. B+ for pascal is going overboard for how I rank fighters.

I rank fighters per their colleagues
A- Elite
B -very good fighters
C- good to very good inconsistent fighters
D- the fighters that win more than they lose but never manage more than contender alpha title appearances
F Journeymen, which sometimes can surprise all except the B and A fighters

 

Stopped reading there.

Resume is, IMO anyway, THE best way to determine how good a fighter is. Anyone can look good fighting bums, but it's how you do against the top fighters that shows how good you really are.

 

They have both been fighting for roughly the same amount of time and GGG has only won a vacant title. You say resumes don't matter but your basis is GGG looks good against world class fighters it doesn't make any sense because his resume doesn't have world class fighters on it. He has some decent wins with his best win being Martin Murray nothing to write home about. He hasn't fought another title holder on the world stage only coming close to Geale and MM who face are just not good they are Brian Magee level.

 

all pro's are supposedly world class but I mean fighters that are capable of winning a legit title.

Geale and Murray are a level below pascal, jean is a good fighter, I just have many less elite levels in my rankings in boxing as a whole

 

Golovkin's record being inferior to Froch's has nothing to do with how their fight would end.

Golovkin by stoppage.

 

This all damn day!

 

Seems like a crazy rating system, but to each his own.

 

to me resumes don't mean anything.
I've seen him in against enough world class opponents, I would venture (without looking) has last 10 opponents have been world class. meaning they have been to the top, fighting for a real title winning or losing.

I've seen his chin tested, his stamina tested, his ring IQ has been on display and his skills are truly otherworldly. if people don't think he has the skills I see from him, that's all good.

I've seen everything froch has and doesn't have. froch compared to GGG is just so limited, has nothing close to GGG in any aspect of the fight game.

Trip G is an elite level talent with elite level chin and stamina. that makes him the cream of the crop for me

 

Completely agree that GGG edges Froch in just about every area. But Froch's chin is the best in the business.

 

What in the HELL has Chavez Jr. done to make Stamina rate him so highly? He got schooled by Martinez until the last round, and got a gift decision over Vera.

 

Frochs faded GGG has a good chance he's only what 33 and hasn't been in with the level of comp that could cause his body to suffer and break down. Froch is almost 40 and is even older in boxing years with the punishment he has walked through in the ring. Resumes mean more than an eye test especially for Froch who looks/is limited but usually finds a way to win against the better, faster, more polished flashy boxers. Losing to Ward ( the win that propelled Ward into the P4P rankings) and was one of the most talented fighters in the game at the time isn't something to cry over either.

 

I haven't seen GGG fighting BUMS lately.
and that is 100% correct, resume IMO mean NOTHING in determining how good or great a fighter is.

all the questions can be answered with the right opponents and GGG has all been answered for me. this is how great he is and will be until he starts to age.

I guess, in your opinion if GGG fought froch tomorrow and destroyed him that would make you think GGG is better than he was prior to said fight ? that's how I am reading it.

GGG destroying froch would be 100% expected for me which would do nothing for how I feel about him. I know what GGG has, so him beating fighters I fully expect him to beat changes what ?

 

Going by Stamina's statement, Wilder must be P4P #1.